Re: [Kicad-developers] Was: page selection dialog, everybody please comment

2013-04-19 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 07:11:48PM -0500, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: > LAYER_NUM is mostly used as an iterator in our code, used to walk through for > loops. Also as a parameter for indexing into stuff and especially LAYER_MSK stuff. The main 'practical' reason for its introduction was finding *ever

Re: [Kicad-developers] Was: page selection dialog, everybody please comment

2013-04-19 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 07:11:41PM -0500, Karl Schmidt wrote: > In real life ECO means something a bit different -- they are > documents that help stop things like purchasing substituting parts > with lower voltages.. I would write and sign an ECO for any part > change - sometime purchasing would n

Re: [Kicad-developers] Was: page selection dialog, everybody please comment

2013-04-19 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
> As for the layer number issue, as I already said, you're free to search > and replace it to int. I'll do it personally if you like it. Thank you for that offer. Since you were aware of my concern about LAYER_NUM ahead of your commit, and the fact that I do not view that enum as helpful, I w

Re: [Kicad-developers] Was: page selection dialog, everybody please comment

2013-04-19 Thread Karl Schmidt
On 04/19/2013 08:17 AM, jp charras wrote: Le 19/04/2013 14:48, Lorenzo Marcantonio a écrit : On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 02:41:01PM +0200, jp charras wrote: Engineering Comment Order Maybe Engineering Change Order? some CAD use this term for forward/back annotation... It is ECO Engineering Chan

[Kicad-developers] XSL Script to generate BOM for Digi-Key ordering system

2013-04-19 Thread Stefan Helmert
Hello, I have done an xsl file, which is generating a csv file from the BOM xml file to order the parts directly from Digi-Key by uploading the csv. I hope it will be helpful Best regards Stefan Helmert bom2digikey.xsl Description: application/xslt ___

Re: [Kicad-developers] Was: page selection dialog, everybody please comment

2013-04-19 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 09:06:39AM -0400, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > comments about indices is correct. Using an ordinal number does not > guarantee layer compatibility when we finally get around to adding > more layers. They are also not readable. What is a layer 0, 1, 2, > 3...N? You would alway

Re: [Kicad-developers] Was: page selection dialog, everybody please comment

2013-04-19 Thread jp charras
Le 19/04/2013 14:48, Lorenzo Marcantonio a écrit : On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 02:41:01PM +0200, jp charras wrote: Engineering Comment Order Maybe Engineering Change Order? some CAD use this term for forward/back annotation... Yes, or perhaps Engineering Command Order. ECO was used in my previ

Re: [Kicad-developers] Was: page selection dialog, everybody please comment

2013-04-19 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 4/19/2013 8:11 AM, jp charras wrote: Le 19/04/2013 13:12, Lorenzo Marcantonio a écrit : On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 05:45:33AM -0500, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: We might do well as a team by slowing down and focusing on reliability and quality not features for awhile. Firstly, the bugs are damaging

Re: [Kicad-developers] Was: page selection dialog, everybody please comment

2013-04-19 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 02:41:01PM +0200, jp charras wrote: > Engineering Comment Order Maybe Engineering Change Order? some CAD use this term for forward/back annotation... Another think... what does the ki in kicad stand for??? Just curious:P -- Lorenzo Marcantonio Logos Srl __

Re: [Kicad-developers] Was: page selection dialog, everybody please comment

2013-04-19 Thread jp charras
Le 19/04/2013 14:39, jp charras a écrit : Le 19/04/2013 14:28, Lorenzo Marcantonio a écrit : To this day I still don't know what ECO stands for, in fact... Comment2 would have been more explicative. And *I* know english, at least a bit. Some EDA tools use ECO layers for specific comments: ECO

Re: [Kicad-developers] Was: page selection dialog, everybody please comment

2013-04-19 Thread jp charras
Le 19/04/2013 14:28, Lorenzo Marcantonio a écrit : To this day I still don't know what ECO stands for, in fact... Comment2 would have been more explicative. And *I* know english, at least a bit. Some EDA tools use ECO layers for specific comments: ECO means Engineering Order Comments. -- Jean-

Re: [Kicad-developers] Was: page selection dialog, everybody please comment

2013-04-19 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 07:06:05AM -0500, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: > My dog is named jasper. He is not named "80 lb. brown labrador". *YOU* named your dog. And since it has been given a *proper* name, why couldn't a layer be called 'ClearancesForAvoidingBigExplosions'. Otherwise you're self-contrad

Re: [Kicad-developers] Was: page selection dialog, everybody please comment

2013-04-19 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 02:11:08PM +0200, jp charras wrote: > Good or bad practice mainly depend on your criteria: > I know (and Dick knows) using an user visible string can create > issues, but using an index is not better: > when you insert a new item or change items order, indexes in > existing

Re: [Kicad-developers] Was: page selection dialog, everybody please comment

2013-04-19 Thread jp charras
Le 19/04/2013 13:12, Lorenzo Marcantonio a écrit : On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 05:45:33AM -0500, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: We might do well as a team by slowing down and focusing on reliability and quality not features for awhile. Firstly, the bugs are damaging to the project. Using the user visible

Re: [Kicad-developers] Was: page selection dialog, everybody please comment

2013-04-19 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On Apr 19, 2013 6:12 AM, "Lorenzo Marcantonio" wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 05:45:33AM -0500, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: > > We might do well as a team by slowing down and focusing on reliability and > > quality not features for awhile. Firstly, the bugs are damaging to the > > project. > > Usi

Re: [Kicad-developers] Was: page selection dialog, everybody please comment

2013-04-19 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 05:45:33AM -0500, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: > We might do well as a team by slowing down and focusing on reliability and > quality not features for awhile. Firstly, the bugs are damaging to the > project. Using the user visible string as an index *is* a bad practice and a bug

Re: [Kicad-developers] Was: page selection dialog, everybody please comment

2013-04-19 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On Apr 18, 2013 2:34 PM, "Lorenzo Marcantonio" wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:35:01PM -0500, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: > > Lorenzo, > > > > The page selection dialog was broken in rev 4081 by a change which collapsed > > > > was from "USLedger" to "US Ledger". > > Sorry my fault. I *really* to

Re: [Kicad-developers] Was: page selection dialog, everybody please comment

2013-04-19 Thread Sergey A. Borshch
I'd like to have feedback from everyone on these opinions. I fully agree with Lorenzo, I really need Top Assembly and Bot Assembly layers, as well as more user layers (and user grids too). But that's doesn't matter because all we could get as a result of discussion is a Dick's cry about money.

Re: [Kicad-developers] Patch to fix pcbnew example scripts and SWIG interface

2013-04-19 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo
Pushed now in 4105 If I'm not wrong :-) Miguel Angel Ajo http://www.nbee.es (http://www.nbee.es/) +34911407752 skype: ajoajoajo On Wednesday, 17 de April de 2013 at 23:25, Miguel Angel Ajo wrote: > Ehh, it seems that I did not push to main repository the previous patches, I > will check > wh