Re: [Kicad-developers] layer based constraints

2013-04-26 Thread Dimitris Lampridis
On 04/25/2013 02:22 AM, Simon Huwyler wrote: As some PCB manufacturers (i.e. seeedstudio) have different clearance- an width constraints for outer- and inner layer, I had the idea to teach Kicad to manage “layer based” constraints. Ok, for the moment, I chatted enough. What do you think about

Re: [Kicad-developers] layer based constraints

2013-04-26 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 04/26/2013 03:02 AM, Dimitris Lampridis wrote: On 04/25/2013 02:22 AM, Simon Huwyler wrote: As some PCB manufacturers (i.e. seeedstudio) have different clearance- an width constraints for outer- and inner layer, I had the idea to teach Kicad to manage “layer based” constraints. Ok, for

Re: [Kicad-developers] layer based constraints

2013-04-26 Thread Simon Huwyler
Hi! Only a quite short anwer for the moment - maybe I have more time this evening... a) in my opinion, this should not be tied to layers. Instead it should be part of a net class in the design rules. This would allow the user to keep separate inner/outer constraints per net class. When

Re: [Kicad-developers] layer based constraints

2013-04-26 Thread Simon Huwyler
One more thing: I agree that the additional numbers may confuse a bit. So, why not just insert a check box named: Use layer based constraints? Still one more thing (I'm a bit sarcastic now, but I don't mean it bad, don't get me wrong): Why is the layer stack in the menu constraints? ;-)

Re: [Kicad-developers] layer based constraints

2013-04-26 Thread Simon Huwyler
hm... me again! Sorry about that, but I just had another thought I would like to tell you: Taking the layer constraints into the (net) constrain dialog would mean that somehow, I have to tell for each constraint, to which layer it is applicable. One problem with this approach I have

Re: [Kicad-developers] layer based constraints

2013-04-26 Thread Tomasz Wlostowski
On 04/26/2013 04:08 PM, Simon Huwyler wrote: One more thing: I agree that the additional numbers may confuse a bit. So, why not just insert a check box named: Use layer based constraints? Hi Simon, I agree that such constraints are very useful, I use them frequently in Altium, but this is

Re: [Kicad-developers] layer based constraints

2013-04-26 Thread Simon Huwyler
Very cool idea! Concerning the potential mess in the pcb file, I absolutely agree. Concerning the potential mess I partly agree. Of course, this check-box would be in the layer stack dialog, not in the constraint dialog. I really like your idea of an arbitrary list of constraints of any sort.

Re: [Kicad-developers] layer based constraints

2013-04-26 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 4/26/2013 10:41 AM, Simon Huwyler wrote: hm... me again! Sorry about that, but I just had another thought I would like to tell you: Taking the layer constraints into the (net) constrain dialog would mean that somehow, I have to tell for each constraint, to which layer it is applicable.

[Kicad-developers] Proposal: Move to C++11

2013-04-26 Thread Felix Morgner
Hi there I think I haven't introduced myself yet. I'm a hobbyist programmer and mechanic by trade. I got into electronics about 2-3 years back with my first micro controller experience using an Arduino. Since then I've been searching for a good free open-source tool to draw schematics and pcb

Re: [Kicad-developers] layer based constraints

2013-04-26 Thread Simon Huwyler
Hi, in case you are interested, you can find a diff attached. It's of course a very basic version, the constraints are neither saved nor initialized at startup, and only track width and track clearance are handled yet. But imagine being in the position where you have such different layer

Re: [Kicad-developers] Proposal: Move to C++11

2013-04-26 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 04/26/2013 04:50 PM, Felix Morgner wrote: Hi there I think I haven't introduced myself yet. I'm a hobbyist programmer and mechanic by trade. I got into electronics about 2-3 years back with my first micro controller experience using an Arduino. Since then I've been searching for a

Re: [Kicad-developers] layer based constraints

2013-04-26 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 04/26/2013 09:43 AM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: On 04/26/2013 04:08 PM, Simon Huwyler wrote: One more thing: I agree that the additional numbers may confuse a bit. So, why not just insert a check box named: Use layer based constraints? Hi Simon, I agree that such constraints are very