Re: [Kicad-developers] Module editor branch merged

2014-07-16 Thread Nick Østergaard
2014-07-15 17:45 GMT+02:00 Maciej Sumiński maciej.sumin...@cern.ch: Hi Nick, In my opinion drawing on copper layers with drawing tools instead of laying out tracks should not be allowed unless it is supported by the DRC algorithm. Sure, the DRC should handle it, but refresh my memory -- as

Re: [Kicad-developers] Module editor branch merged

2014-07-16 Thread Maciej Sumiński
On 07/16/2014 10:08 AM, Nick Østergaard wrote: 2014-07-15 17:45 GMT+02:00 Maciej Sumiński maciej.sumin...@cern.ch: Hi Nick, In my opinion drawing on copper layers with drawing tools instead of laying out tracks should not be allowed unless it is supported by the DRC algorithm. Sure, the DRC

Re: [Kicad-developers] Module editor branch merged

2014-07-16 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:08:17AM +0200, Nick Østergaard wrote: Sure, the DRC should handle it, but refresh my memory -- as far as I remember there was some talk about including tracks in footprints. I don't remember the outcome of that or it it is allow or not. AFAIK tracks in footprints are

Re: [Kicad-developers] Module editor branch merged

2014-07-16 Thread Maciej Sumiński
On 07/16/2014 10:11 AM, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:08:17AM +0200, Nick Østergaard wrote: Sure, the DRC should handle it, but refresh my memory -- as far as I remember there was some talk about including tracks in footprints. I don't remember the outcome of that or it

Re: [Kicad-developers] Module editor branch merged

2014-07-16 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:33:06AM +0200, Maciej Sumiński wrote: Are not they added as DRAWSEGMENTs on copper layers? I am willing to bet that it is not handled by DRC. I'm not accepting that bet :D Why the track are not subclasses of segments is probably an old design decision. Also because

Re: [Kicad-developers] Module editor branch merged

2014-07-16 Thread Tomasz Wlostowski
On 16.07.2014 11:01, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:33:06AM +0200, Maciej Sumiński wrote: Are not they added as DRAWSEGMENTs on copper layers? I am willing to bet that it is not handled by DRC. I'm not accepting that bet :D Why the track are not subclasses of segments

Re: [Kicad-developers] Module editor branch merged

2014-07-16 Thread jp charras
Le 16/07/2014 10:16, Maciej Sumiński a écrit : On 07/16/2014 10:08 AM, Nick Østergaard wrote: 2014-07-15 17:45 GMT+02:00 Maciej Sumiński maciej.sumin...@cern.ch: Hi Nick, In my opinion drawing on copper layers with drawing tools instead of laying out tracks should not be allowed unless it

Re: [Kicad-developers] Module editor branch merged

2014-07-16 Thread Maciej Sumiński
On 07/16/2014 11:01 AM, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:33:06AM +0200, Maciej Sumiński wrote: Are not they added as DRAWSEGMENTs on copper layers? I am willing to bet that it is not handled by DRC. I'm not accepting that bet :D Why the track are not subclasses of

Re: [Kicad-developers] Module editor branch merged

2014-07-16 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:29:58AM +0200, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: Do you mean storing everything in a flat hierarchy and getting rid of all links/pointers between items? This would be great (Alfons uses such model in Freerouter, I made it to less extent in our PS). Not necessarily flat, the

Re: [Kicad-developers] Module editor branch merged

2014-07-16 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:04:53PM +0200, Maciej Sumiński wrote: I was aware of that, therefore I conducted my tests on boards that contained modules with Edge.Cuts line inside (not just in the module editor). I slightly modified one condition in zone filling algorithm to take edges in modules

Re: [Kicad-developers] Module editor branch merged

2014-07-16 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:50:12AM +0200, jp charras wrote: Therefore you cannot easily take in account (in DRC algorithms) segments and zones drawn in footprint editor on copper layers, because in many case they connect 2 different nets. I use this behaviour *exactly* to make equipotential

Re: [Kicad-developers] Module editor branch merged

2014-07-16 Thread Torsten Hüter
Hi Orson, very nice work, this gets KiCad to a new level. In my opinion custom pad shapes are for todays PCB designs a important feature. There are some parts like MEMS microphones which require arcs as pads. Do you have any access to professional tools like Altium Designer or Mentor

[Kicad-developers] can / where I have my own branch?

2014-07-16 Thread Mário Luzeiro
Hello, since I am new to kicad dev group, I have basic question: Can I have my own repository branch online and work on it? If yes, any one explain me how? Thanks in advance! Mario ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to :

Re: [Kicad-developers] Module editor branch merged

2014-07-16 Thread Maciej Sumiński
W dniu 2014-07-15 16:53, jp charras pisze: Le 14/07/2014 16:51, Maciej Sumiński a écrit : Dear Developers, After a period of testing, the module-editor branch [1] has just been merged to the product branch. Besides the conversion of the module editor to GAL Thanks. There is a redraw/refresh

Re: [Kicad-developers] Module editor branch merged

2014-07-16 Thread Cirilo Bernardo
- Original Message - From: Maciej Sumiński maciej.sumin...@cern.ch To: Kicad Developers kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] Module editor branch merged [snip] In GAL editor you can have PCB edges in

Re: [Kicad-developers] can / where I have my own branch?

2014-07-16 Thread Cirilo Bernardo
- Original Message - From: Mário Luzeiro mrluze...@ua.pt To: kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 11:29 PM Subject: [Kicad-developers] can / where I have my own branch? Hello, since I am new to kicad dev

[Kicad-developers] Error in common/tool/tool_manager.cpp with latest OS X C++ library

2014-07-16 Thread Michael Narigon
All, I am trying to compile KiCad with the latest compilers and libraries from Apple. I am getting an error in common/tool/tool_manager.cpp at line 180. [ 86%] Building CXX object common/CMakeFiles/common.dir/tool/tool_manager.cpp.o In file included from