Re: [Kicad-developers] Getting Trackpad Support in before feature freeze?

2015-02-24 Thread Bob Gustafson
Since the pinch part still needs to be developed for wxWidgets, it doesn't have to be in at the moment (my vote anyway). For zoom, the cmd + and cmd - will do fine, as long as the panning is both sideways and up-down. Zoom tends to be sensitive anyway. Having only panning as two finger trackpad

Re: [Kicad-developers] before filing a bug report/improvement suggestion

2015-02-24 Thread Nick Østergaard
I am not a native english speaker, but I find it easier when any engineering technical program is in english and I normally use that. I guess that it would be a good idea to translate the hotkey list also. 2015-02-24 8:55 GMT+01:00 Marco Ciampa ciam...@libero.it: I am here to ask for a

Re: [Kicad-developers] eeschema Preferences

2015-02-24 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 2/24/2015 10:38 AM, Bernhard Stegmaier wrote: OK... :) I'll try at least to figure out what to change at minimum so that a default kicad.pro is created in the kicad preferences folder (instead of the eeschema Preferences file somewhere else). As far as I understood the code this could be

Re: [Kicad-developers] eeschema Preferences

2015-02-24 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 2/23/2015 5:10 PM, Bernhard Stegmaier wrote: Hi all, I am trying to understand how eeschema gets its preferences (i.e., libraries and library path) on a completely fresh machine that has never seen KiCad before. Me too! If you figure it out please let me know :) All kidding aside,

[Kicad-developers] Getting Trackpad Support in before feature freeze?

2015-02-24 Thread Adam Wolf
Hi folks, Can we start a discussion on if it would be appropriate to get Garth's trackpad support in before the feature freeze? If it is possible, what needs to be done, and who can do it? (Please, folks, this is not a thread for bug reports or debugging builds. If we're going to have any

Re: [Kicad-developers] Feature freeze and next release terminology

2015-02-24 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Damn! Too late for 4.0.0. Better one up Linus by using 5.0.0. :) On 2/24/2015 11:30 AM, Adam Wolf wrote: Hi Wayne, Any chance you can make a call on 3.0.0 vs 4.0.0? (Torvalds just took Linux to 4.0 this week :)) Adam Wolf On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Wayne Stambaugh

Re: [Kicad-developers] Getting Trackpad Support in before feature freeze?

2015-02-24 Thread Bob Gustafson
Super!!! I can do testing as needed. I have magic mouse and MacAir with trackpad - running 10.10.2 Bob G On 02/24/2015 09:51 AM, Adam Wolf wrote: Hi folks, Can we start a discussion on if it would be appropriate to get Garth's trackpad support in before the feature freeze? If it is

Re: [Kicad-developers] Feature freeze and next release terminology

2015-02-24 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Here is the stable release policy: http://ci.kicad-pcb.org/job/kicad-doxygen/ws/Documentation/doxygen/html/md_Documentation_development_stable-release-policy.html I still need to add the numbering system to this. On 2/24/2015 11:00 AM, Adam Wolf wrote: Hi folks, I have started and deleted

Re: [Kicad-developers] Feature freeze and next release terminology

2015-02-24 Thread Nick Østergaard
Den 24/02/2015 17.00 skrev Adam Wolf adamw...@feelslikeburning.com: Hi folks, I have started and deleted this email multiple times. I really don't enjoy discussions like this, but sometimes they're necessary. I have ran into quite a few misconceptions recently from non-devs about what the

Re: [Kicad-developers] Feature freeze and next release terminology

2015-02-24 Thread Adam Wolf
Hi Wayne, Any chance you can make a call on 3.0.0 vs 4.0.0? (Torvalds just took Linux to 4.0 this week :)) Adam Wolf On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the stable release policy:

[Kicad-developers] Feature freeze and next release terminology

2015-02-24 Thread Adam Wolf
Hi folks, I have started and deleted this email multiple times. I really don't enjoy discussions like this, but sometimes they're necessary. I have ran into quite a few misconceptions recently from non-devs about what the upcoming release is going to be. The issues I am seeing seem to hinge

Re: [Kicad-developers] eeschema Preferences

2015-02-24 Thread Bernhard Stegmaier
OK... :) I'll try at least to figure out what to change at minimum so that a default kicad.pro is created in the kicad preferences folder (instead of the eeschema Preferences file somewhere else). As far as I understood the code this could be the intention - and it IMHO would be somewhat

Re: [Kicad-developers] eeschema Preferences

2015-02-24 Thread Bernhard Stegmaier
At least that is what currently seems to be implemented. If no project specific configuration is given (i.e., just startup eeschema without any file) a kicad.pro template is searched in the search paths and the first one found would get copied to some default (preferences) location and used.

Re: [Kicad-developers] Getting Trackpad Support in before feature freeze?

2015-02-24 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
As far as the wx patch goes, I don't have any issues with that. We have other OSX specific wxWidgets patches so I don't see why one more would hurt. However, the kicad patch must be thoroughly tested on Linux and Windows to make sure the default behavior is not changed for mouse wheel zooming

Re: [Kicad-developers] Getting Trackpad Support in before feature freeze?

2015-02-24 Thread Bernhard Stegmaier
I normally just do a bzr merge lp:~gcorral/kicad/osx-trackpad-gestures into the current head I am building and that’s it… Regards Bernhard On 24 Feb 2015, at 19:56, Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@gmail.com wrote: As far as the wx patch goes, I don't have any issues with that. We have other

Re: [Kicad-developers] eeschema Preferences

2015-02-24 Thread LordBlick
In response to a message written on 24.02.2015, 16:51, from Wayne Stambaugh: The .pro file belongs in the path for each project. It should not contain system specific paths. It is created when you create a new project and contains the project specific settings. There is no way to save symbol

Re: [Kicad-developers] Getting Trackpad Support in before feature freeze?

2015-02-24 Thread Bob Gustafson
I locally merged Garth's code a week or so ago and had difficulties - don't know if it was his files, my dependencies, or something else. Attached is the log of my merge - it was against r5431 and shows the names of the merged files. One of my problems was that after I built KiCad, after

Re: [Kicad-developers] Getting Trackpad Support in before feature freeze?

2015-02-24 Thread Bernhard Stegmaier
Hi, would be really great. I use it since Garth provided his branch and merge it regularly into my builds. Currently I only use the panning part, because you still have to patch wxWidgets for the pinch-to-zoom. I didn’t see any showstopper on my MacBook (TouchPad) and my desktop (Mighty and

Re: [Kicad-developers] Getting Trackpad Support in before feature freeze?

2015-02-24 Thread Adam Wolf
Bernhard, that is a good point. If Wayne et al are reluctant to patch wx for pinch-to-zoom, we can pull in just the panning changes. I have had Nick test on Linux--I seem to remember he said there wasn't an impact to him, but I am not sure if the changes are too subtle to notice. Basically, at

Re: [Kicad-developers] Getting Trackpad Support in before feature freeze?

2015-02-24 Thread Adam Wolf
Hi Wayne, The Waynelight worked! :) I believe there is a minor change to scrolling behavior on all platforms. Garth has the details. I am not sure if it's something we care about--I need to go back and re-read the details. Nick has merged this into a linux build, and used it there, and didn't

Re: [Kicad-developers] Getting Trackpad Support in before feature freeze?

2015-02-24 Thread Nick Østergaard
True, but it is quite some time ago, although not a first announcement. I have not seen if any new changes has been made after that. Also the patch adds an alternative pan/zoom mode, and still has the old style (almost unaffected). In the old mode, I think he swapped the actions of the ctrl+scroll

Re: [Kicad-developers] Getting Trackpad Support in before feature freeze?

2015-02-24 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 2/24/2015 2:13 PM, Adam Wolf wrote: Hi Wayne, The Waynelight worked! :) Too funny! Must resist urge to make batman jokes. I believe there is a minor change to scrolling behavior on all platforms. Garth has the details. I am not sure if it's something we care about--I need to go

Re: [Kicad-developers] Getting Trackpad Support in before feature freeze?

2015-02-24 Thread Garth Corral
Sorry for being so silent, folks. I'll try to send a summary later tonight with my take on these changes and the impediments to getting them in. Garth On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Nick Østergaard oe.n...@gmail.com wrote: True, but it is quite some time ago, although not a first

Re: [Kicad-developers] Getting Trackpad Support in before feature freeze?

2015-02-24 Thread Garth Corral
Okay, so yes, this code hasn’t been touched in a while but I’ve been merging lp:kicad about once a week. Here’s where I think things are. The pinch to zoom stuff, while optional, is both really useful for OS X trackpad users and probably the easiest to get in. I committed this separately