[Kicad-developers] [RFC] Future, more flexible D_PAD class

2015-09-09 Thread LordBlick
My few thoughts on class D_PAD. D_PAD class should be also replacement for VIAs(or VIA should be subclass of D_PAD instead TRACK) and only container of: - so many as needed copper shapes(actual simple ones plus closed berzier, poly etc.) with LSETs each (no need to differ pads to SMD, STD, CONN,

Re: [Kicad-developers] dxf: import 4 arcs

2015-09-09 Thread Cirilo Bernardo
3D MCAD will generally represent even simple circular arcs as B-Splines, so it it likely that your arcs were written to DXF as B-Splines or Bezier curves. Use librecad to draw the arcs instead; 2D CADs will generally represent conics as a Euclidean formulation on a Cartesian plane. Re-exporting

Re: [Kicad-developers] Announcing The New Website

2015-09-09 Thread Fabrizio Tappero
guys, the quality of the new KiCad webpage is surreal ! well done. Fabrizio -- Fabrizio Tappero On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: > I'd put in my vote for serving it ourselves, if it's not too much > trouble. I also don't much care for external

Re: [Kicad-developers] dxf: import 4 arcs

2015-09-09 Thread Marco Hess
Hi Maurice, The interesting issue then is that the procedure of 'simply' importing in LibreCad and then "Save As' DXF R12 as currently documented in the 'pcbnew' manual did not fix the issue. Other than 'redrawing' as you did, is there another 'fool proof' way that this could have worked

Re: [Kicad-developers] official web page

2015-09-09 Thread Nick Østergaard
Hi Easyw I think they will fit fine on the 3d-viewer page. But we would need to be able to distinguish your kicad stepup script and the VRML only models. I think it could be explained under the video with a few sentences. Feel free to make a pull request with that and the images. 2015-09-09 0:45

Re: [Kicad-developers] dxf: import 4 arcs

2015-09-09 Thread easyw
Hi Marcos and Marco, please find attached the dxf that I did from scratch using 4 arcs in LibreCAD I copied manually the path from palta2.dxf, then exported in dxf R12 The result is fine in kicad and I get a closed path also for Edge cuts. in kicad there are 4 arcs (gr_arc (start 178.564202

Re: [Kicad-developers] dxf: import 4 arcs

2015-09-09 Thread LordBlick
In response to a message written on 09.09.2015, 13:59, from Marco Hess: Hi Maurice, The interesting issue then is that the procedure of 'simply' importing in LibreCad and then "Save As' DXF R12 as currently documented in the 'pcbnew' manual did not fix the issue. Other than 'redrawing' as you

Re: [Kicad-developers] VRML export oddness.

2015-09-09 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
For now I converted the circle into two 180 degree arcs which solved my problem. I looked at the vrml export code and the only way I can see to resolve the issue is to export the silkscreen text last so that any circles do not obscure the text. It may also be possible to make the hole in the

Re: [Kicad-developers] DXF export broken?

2015-09-09 Thread Tomasz Wlostowski
On 09.09.2015 15:58, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > This board is exposing all kinds of issues. First vrml export, now the > DXF plots are wrong. I know I've plotted dxfs for similar shaped boards > in the past. I don't know if it's this board in particular or something > has been changed in the dxf

[Kicad-developers] DXF export broken?

2015-09-09 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
This board is exposing all kinds of issues. First vrml export, now the DXF plots are wrong. I know I've plotted dxfs for similar shaped boards in the past. I don't know if it's this board in particular or something has been changed in the dxf plotter. Could someone with experience with the dxf

Re: [Kicad-developers] DXF export broken?

2015-09-09 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
That fixed the problem. I committed your patch. Thanks for the quick response. Cheers, Wayne On 9/9/2015 10:35 AM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: > On 09.09.2015 15:58, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: >> This board is exposing all kinds of issues. First vrml export, now the >> DXF plots are wrong. I know

Re: [Kicad-developers] DXF export broken?

2015-09-09 Thread Nick Østergaard
Is it possible to make a unittest with this? Using the python framework we have for it? 2015-09-09 17:52 GMT+02:00 Wayne Stambaugh : > That fixed the problem. I committed your patch. Thanks for the quick > response. > > Cheers, > > Wayne > > On 9/9/2015 10:35 AM, Tomasz

Re: [Kicad-developers] First time contribution suggestion: Auto increment pin number (symbol creation)

2015-09-09 Thread Chris Pavlina
I second this, sounds useful :) On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 04:46:56PM -0400, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > This sounds like it could be useful feature. Take a look at the pin > edit dialog code as well. We are currently in feature freeze for the > upcoming stable release so all new features will be

Re: [Kicad-developers] dxf: import 4 arcs

2015-09-09 Thread Marco Hess
I 'rewrote' the DXF R12 conversion procedure for the manual as follows. I checked it like this and this works with the original DXF file from Marcos. Does this reflect the general understanding? Notes on importing DXF files The *DXF* import capability in KiCad is limited as there is no

[Kicad-developers] On the DXF import dialog in 'default' vs. GAL canvas.

2015-09-09 Thread Marco Hess
Just on the DXF import dialog now I played with it a bit more again, I noted that there is a distinct behavioural difference depending on the canvas used. In the 'default' canvas, the import allows the setting the origin of the DXF relative to the board and works as advertised. However, in

Re: [Kicad-developers] FW: Export to ODB++

2015-09-09 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Dan, Thank you for giving KiCad a try. The members of the KiCad development team are glad you like it. KiCad does not support ODB++ and probably wont until it becomes an open standard. ODB++ is currently controlled by Mentor Graphics and requires signing and NDA just to get a copy of the

Re: [Kicad-developers] DXF export broken?

2015-09-09 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
I don't see why not. I haven't tried to create a unit test using the Python framework yet but it certainly wouldn't hurt to give a shot. I'm probably not going to have time until after the stable release to take a look at it. On 9/9/2015 11:58 AM, Nick Østergaard wrote: > Is it possible to make

Re: [Kicad-developers] dxf: import 4 arcs

2015-09-09 Thread easyw
I still consider that a message to be added as warning in the import dialog saying "use R12 dxf version without polyline" would be useful On 09/09/2015 18.31, LordBlick wrote: In response to a message written on 09.09.2015, 17:56, from easyw: A good solution is to open palta2.dxf, select the

Re: [Kicad-developers] FW: Export to ODB++

2015-09-09 Thread Mark Roszko
Wayne, ODB++ is now "open". http://www.odb-sa.com/resources (You just have to register a simple account that does not require an NDA). But yes the shitty part is this: "Download of the ODB++ Specification does not grant a license to develop software interfaces based on the format specification.

Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Future, more flexible D_PAD class

2015-09-09 Thread LordBlick
In response to a message written on 09.09.2015, 21:26, from easyw: It would also be nice to have a thermal via/pad class, without solder mask and silk screen, visible/available also to python scripting... that would improve footprint wizard to create QFN footprints with exposed pad and thermal

Re: [Kicad-developers] FW: Export to ODB++

2015-09-09 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Mark, I'm not surprised. Without a license, we would potentially skating on thin legal ice. I'm not comfortable with this kind of dubious licensing arrangement. There may also be licensing compatibility issues with using GPL code to generate a licensed file format. One way to get around the

Re: [Kicad-developers] FW: Export to ODB++

2015-09-09 Thread LordBlick
In response to a message written on 09.09.2015, 22:38, from Wayne Stambaugh: Any takers to put their own personal name on that one? Give the job to Chuck Norris -- Best Regards, LordBlick ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers

Re: [Kicad-developers] First time contribution suggestion: Auto increment pin number (symbol creation)

2015-09-09 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
This sounds like it could be useful feature. Take a look at the pin edit dialog code as well. We are currently in feature freeze for the upcoming stable release so all new features will be merged during the next development cycle. Before you submit any patches, please read the coding policy.

Re: [Kicad-developers] dxf: import 4 arcs

2015-09-09 Thread LordBlick
In response to a message written on 09.09.2015, 20:53, from easyw: I still consider that a message to be added as warning in the import dialog saying "use R12 dxf version without polyline" would be useful Maybe: „Polyline detected, try to explode/split it in LibreCAD/qcad and save in R12 dxf

[Kicad-developers] FW: Export to ODB++

2015-09-09 Thread Dan Walmsley
Hello, I have just discovered KiCad. Great work guys. Can KiCad export to ODB++? Thanks Dan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to :

Re: [Kicad-developers] dxf: import 4 arcs

2015-09-09 Thread LordBlick
In response to a message written on 09.09.2015, 17:56, from easyw: A good solution is to open palta2.dxf, select the object and explode it (I'm using LibreCAD 2.0.8 in windows: Select object, Menu Modify Explode) Seems that is kind of Berzier Curve, not few arcs. Probably that shape needs to

Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Future, more flexible D_PAD class

2015-09-09 Thread easyw
It would also be nice to have a thermal via/pad class, without solder mask and silk screen, visible/available also to python scripting... that would improve footprint wizard to create QFN footprints with exposed pad and thermal vias.

Re: [Kicad-developers] dxf: import 4 arcs

2015-09-09 Thread easyw
I just added AddMenuItem( submenuImport, ID_GEN_IMPORT_DXF_FILE, _( " File (R12 best supported (no polylines), units mm)" ), to my import menu in menubar_pcbframe.cpp That is an easy reminder each time I use import dxf function :) On 09/09/2015 22.52, LordBlick wrote: In response to

Re: [Kicad-developers] dxf: import 4 arcs

2015-09-09 Thread Nick Østergaard
I think that kind of text is better suited in the DXF import dialog itself. 2015-09-09 23:08 GMT+02:00 easyw : > I just added > > AddMenuItem( submenuImport, ID_GEN_IMPORT_DXF_FILE, > _( " File (R12 best supported (no polylines), units mm)" ), > > to my import menu in