Re: [Kicad-developers] IPC-2581

2018-02-20 Thread Christian Gagneraud
On 21 February 2018 at 05:19, Ouabache Designworks wrote: > > Does Kicad have anyone working with these folks? > > Found this on semiwiki.com > > > Hemant enthusiastically replied, “We encourage anyone interested in > improving board design processes to join the consortium – there is no fee, > and

Re: [Kicad-developers] IPC-2581

2018-02-20 Thread Mark Roszko
Standardizing IPC-2581 is one thing. But I'm going to be realistic and say it'll take another decade before fabs actually upgrade to software supporting it if they even care. Many write custom software or scripts for their workflow as they hire a guy to do it part time. Other just use the cheapest

Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] Add progress reporting for GerbView file loading

2018-02-20 Thread Andrey Kuznetsov
Does it make sense to predict whether a loading/progress window is necessary based on total file size, based on prediction that a certain size takes X seconds to load? Or is loading highly dependent on the data/objects being loaded? On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:21 PM, Jon Evans wrote: > Hi all, > >

[Kicad-developers] [PATCH] Add progress reporting for GerbView file loading

2018-02-20 Thread Jon Evans
Hi all, This patch adds the progress reporter dialog to GerbView file loading, when loading multiple files and the total load time goes over 1 second. I've also done some refactoring to share code between loading multiple files via a gerber job file and via the regular open dialog. -Jon From d96

Re: [Kicad-developers] IPC-2581

2018-02-20 Thread Ouabache Designworks
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 4:20 PM, Jeff Young wrote: > > Maybe we should submit the kicad board file for acceptance as the > standard. ;) > > It’s actually not a bad idea. My board house takes Gerbers or Kicad, and > nothing else. > > Plus, it’s open source, which standards bodies like. (But even

Re: [Kicad-developers] IPC-2581

2018-02-20 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 02/20/2018 07:20 PM, Jeff Young wrote: > Maybe we should submit the kicad board file for acceptance as the standard. ;) It’s actually not a bad idea.  My board house takes Gerbers or Kicad, and nothing else. Plus, it’s open source, which standards bodies like.  (But even commercial stuf

Re: [Kicad-developers] IPC-2581

2018-02-20 Thread Jeff Young
> Maybe we should submit the kicad board file for acceptance as the standard. ;) It’s actually not a bad idea. My board house takes Gerbers or Kicad, and nothing else. Plus, it’s open source, which standards bodies like. (But even commercial stuff can become a standard — I was part of the tea

Re: [Kicad-developers] Two prezzies for Wayne....

2018-02-20 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Patches merged! Keep up the great work! Thanks, Wayne On 02/20/2018 10:43 AM, Jeff Young wrote: ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-d

Re: [Kicad-developers] IPC-2581

2018-02-20 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Standards always seem like a good idea on the surface but they don't seem to work as well in practice. On thing that is certain, gerber is still the defacto standard for having boards manufactured. Lover or hate em, they are not going anywhere any time soon. Of the few board houses that I us

Re: [Kicad-developers] wxPython/wxWidgets compatibility check

2018-02-20 Thread Nick Østergaard
Yippee, build fixed! Project KiCad (Windows, MSYS2) Nightly Build build #203: FIXED in 30 min: http://darine.hogyros.de:8080/job/windows-kicad-msys2/203/ 2018-02-20 20:33 GMT+01:00 Maciej Suminski : > Apologies, it should be fine now. > > Cheers, > Orson > > On 02/20/2018 08:09 PM, Wayne Stambaug

Re: [Kicad-developers] Update needed for AUTHORS.txt file

2018-02-20 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
I fixed this and updated the contributor list. Thanks for the heads up. On 2/16/2018 11:40 AM, Kevin Cozens wrote: > Greetings. > > Some time ago one of the messages to this mailing list made me look at > the AUTHORS.txt file. It says "See also CHANGELOG.txt for contributors." > but there is no

Re: [Kicad-developers] wxPython/wxWidgets compatibility check

2018-02-20 Thread Maciej Suminski
Apologies, it should be fine now. Cheers, Orson On 02/20/2018 08:09 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > Me too! Orson, can you please take a look at this when you get a chance. > > On 2/20/2018 12:10 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote: >> Ok, but it seems to break the msys2 build. >> >> http://darine.hogyros.d

Re: [Kicad-developers] wxPython/wxWidgets compatibility check

2018-02-20 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Me too! Orson, can you please take a look at this when you get a chance. On 2/20/2018 12:10 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote: > Ok, but it seems to break the msys2 build. > > http://darine.hogyros.de:8080/job/windows-kicad-msys2/202/console > > *17:58:19* > C:/msys64/mingw32/lib/python2.7/site-packag

Re: [Kicad-developers] IPC-2581

2018-02-20 Thread Ouabache Designworks
Looks like they have corporate and individual memberships. Individual is free and probably has no vote. Corp probably costs $$ but gives you a ballot. It would be nice if Kicad had an official rep that could attend meetings, propose rules and vote. At least that way we would know where we differed

Re: [Kicad-developers] wxPython/wxWidgets compatibility check

2018-02-20 Thread Nick Østergaard
Ok, but it seems to break the msys2 build. http://darine.hogyros.de:8080/job/windows-kicad-msys2/202/console *17:58:19* C:/msys64/mingw32/lib/python2.7/site-packages/wx-3.0-msw/wx/_core.py:16633: UserWarning: wxPython/wxWidgets release number mismatch*17:58:19* warnings.warn("wxPython/wxWidgets

Re: [Kicad-developers] wxPython/wxWidgets compatibility check

2018-02-20 Thread Maciej Sumiński
Ok, committed with a message explaining the possible solutions. Cheers, Orson On 02/20/2018 03:22 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > Orson, > > You should just be able to turn of the wxPython scripting. All of the > other scripting should work fine unless someone changed something that > drags in wxP

Re: [Kicad-developers] IPC-2581

2018-02-20 Thread Kevin Cozens
On 2018-02-20 11:19 AM, Ouabache Designworks wrote: Does Kicad have anyone working with these folks? [snip] http://www.ipc2581.com/articles-and-blogs/ I took a look at the website. It sounds interesting but they don't have a lot of information available on the site. Part of what I see is wh

Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH/RFC] Footprint editor menu bar

2018-02-20 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
I merged this patch. Thank you Michael and Jeff for all of your contributions. Cheers, Wayne On 2/20/2018 10:19 AM, Jeff Young wrote: > Update, rebased, warmed-over and spruced-up patch: > > > > > >> On 20 Feb 2018, at 14:02, Jeff Young wrote: >> >> He he… no worries. >> >> I’ll get to it

Re: [Kicad-developers] IPC-2581

2018-02-20 Thread Nick Østergaard
I don't think anything in that regard has changed since: https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg20588.html 2018-02-20 17:19 GMT+01:00 Ouabache Designworks : > > Does Kicad have anyone working with these folks? > > Found this on semiwiki.com > > > Hemant enthusiastically replied, *“We en

[Kicad-developers] IPC-2581

2018-02-20 Thread Ouabache Designworks
Does Kicad have anyone working with these folks? Found this on semiwiki.com Hemant enthusiastically replied, *“We encourage anyone interested in improving board design processes to join the consortium – there is no fee, and no contracts. There are both corporate and associate levels of membershi

Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] Use polygonal hit testing for module selection

2018-02-20 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Jon, I merged your patch. Thanks, Wayne On 2/18/2018 7:01 PM, Jon Evans wrote: > Hi Wayne, > > In my testing there is no performance impact, but more testing is > welcome.  It shouldn't be doing the calculation on too many objects in > general, since this is a "second pass" hit test that appli

[Kicad-developers] Two prezzies for Wayne....

2018-02-20 Thread Jeff Young
0007-Stop-nagging-me-about-unconnected-zones.patch Description: Binary data 0008-Stop-nagging-me-about-annotating.patch Description: Binary data ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.n

Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH/RFC] Footprint editor menu bar

2018-02-20 Thread Jeff Young
Update, rebased, warmed-over and spruced-up patch: 0004-New-menu-structure-for-ModEdit.patch Description: Binary data > On 20 Feb 2018, at 14:02, Jeff Young wrote: > > He he… no worries. > > I’ll get to it as soon as I finish the > zone-creation-tool-not-respecting-45º-mode bug. > > >> O

Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH/RFC] Footprint editor menu bar

2018-02-20 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Hey Jeff, And it just got more complicated. Orson, just pushed one of Michael's patches which created a merge conflict with this patch. Would you please rebase it and resubmit when you get a chance so I can get it merged. Thanks, Wayne On 2/20/2018 7:44 AM, Jeff Young wrote: > Hi Wayne, > >

Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH/RFC] Footprint editor menu bar

2018-02-20 Thread Jeff Young
He he… no worries. I’ll get to it as soon as I finish the zone-creation-tool-not-respecting-45º-mode bug. > On 20 Feb 2018, at 13:59, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > > Hey Jeff, > > And it just got more complicated. Orson, just pushed one of Michael's > patches which created a merge conflict with

Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Change to object visibility system for usability/clarity

2018-02-20 Thread Vesa Solonen
Andrey Kuznetsov kirjoitti 19/02/18 klo 03:59: > Front Pads > Bottom Pads > - > Front Text > Bottom Text > - > etc Please also keep track on consistent naming... Top-Bottom or Front-Back. There used to be a convention which pair to use. -Vesa

Re: [Kicad-developers] wxPython/wxWidgets compatibility check

2018-02-20 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Orson, You should just be able to turn of the wxPython scripting. All of the other scripting should work fine unless someone changed something that drags in wxPython when only the KICAD_SCRIPTING option is enabled. Cheers, Wayne On 2/20/2018 2:40 AM, Maciej Sumiński wrote: > Hi Nick, > > Than

Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH/RFC] Footprint editor menu bar

2018-02-20 Thread Jeff Young
Hi Wayne, All the revisions were indeed getting too complicated. I’ve rolled all the uncommitted changes into a single patch: 0004-New-menu-structure-for-ModEdit.patch Description: Binary data > On 19 Feb 2018, at 23:35, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > > Please queue the patches up for me. I ha

Re: [Kicad-developers] New menu structure tweaks

2018-02-20 Thread Maciej Sumiński
Thank you Michael, the menu indeed looks better with your changes. I have pushed your patch to the master branch. Cheers, Orson On 02/20/2018 01:40 AM, Michael Kavanagh wrote: > Minor modification. Sorry for the noise. > > On 19 February 2018 at 23:07, Michael Kavanagh > wrote: >> Here are the