Re: [Kicad-developers] 'Move' vs. 'drag' user experience justification

2013-06-14 Thread Brian Sidebotham
On 13 June 2013 15:24, Chris Morgan chmor...@gmail.com wrote: Thoughts? I'm thinking it would address everyone's concerns, the two types of move could be kept and new users could be helped to know the differences between the two (and taught the hotkey values) so they wouldn't have to fuss

Re: [Kicad-developers] 'Move' vs. 'drag' user experience justification

2013-06-14 Thread Chris Morgan
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:32 AM, Brian Sidebotham brian.sidebot...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 June 2013 15:24, Chris Morgan chmor...@gmail.com wrote: Thoughts? I'm thinking it would address everyone's concerns, the two types of move could be kept and new users could be helped to know the

Re: [Kicad-developers] 'Move' vs. 'drag' user experience justification

2013-06-14 Thread Jacob Schmidt
Tooltips vs. good documentation is a preference too. And my preference is with Brian's. I don't like tooltips popping up unexpectedly covering something I'm looking at or referencing. The documentation definitely needs updating, last I saw, so I would definitely push for that route. Get it?

[Kicad-developers] 'Move' vs. 'drag' user experience justification

2013-06-13 Thread Chris Morgan
Hi. Just got bit by the move vs. drag issue in eeschema where I was moving parts and couldn't figure out why wires weren't sticking. What I couldn't find is the user experience justification for having a separate move vs. drag feature. There are a ton of posts on the Internet about the same

Re: [Kicad-developers] 'Move' vs. 'drag' user experience justification

2013-06-13 Thread Chris Morgan
Hi Dick. For eeschema, in particular, what is the usage case for moving a component without the attached wires/busses? Chris On Thursday, June 13, 2013, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On Jun 13, 2013 5:27 AM, Chris Morgan chmor...@gmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'chmor...@gmail.com'); wrote:

Re: [Kicad-developers] 'Move' vs. 'drag' user experience justification

2013-06-13 Thread Adam Wolf
There's plenty. If you need to move some stuff away to make some changes, and then want to move them back without redoing all your wires. For example, if you have two sets of things hooked together, on the same bus, and you realize you need to put a level shifter between them, you can move one

Re: [Kicad-developers] 'Move' vs. 'drag' user experience justification

2013-06-13 Thread Chris Morgan
Thoughts? I'm thinking it would address everyone's concerns, the two types of move could be kept and new users could be helped to know the differences between the two (and taught the hotkey values) so they wouldn't have to fuss over whether their custom parts had the correct pin modes defined