Re: [Kicad-developers] [Kicad-lib-committers] Silk screens over pads and naming

2014-06-13 Thread John Beard
On 13/06/14 21:23, Nick Østergaard wrote: > I like the 3D view very much, even the old simple one is great for > verifying tracks. I often find things I want to change when looking at > the 3D view of just the traces and silk. I agree, I think it's having an alaternative perspective. A bit like g

Re: [Kicad-developers] [Kicad-lib-committers] Silk screens over pads and naming

2014-06-13 Thread Nick Østergaard
Den 13/06/2014 21.43 skrev "Lorenzo Marcantonio" : > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 08:33:02PM +0100, John Beard wrote: > > OK, I won't worry too much about it and get one with making more > > footprints! Are there any more things you'd like to see changed? No > > matter how tiny! > > These are already

Re: [Kicad-developers] [Kicad-lib-committers] Silk screens over pads and naming

2014-06-13 Thread John Beard
On 13/06/14 20:44, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote: > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 08:33:02PM +0100, John Beard wrote: >> OK, I won't worry too much about it and get one with making more >> footprints! Are there any more things you'd like to see changed? No >> matter how tiny! > > These are already *way* nic

Re: [Kicad-developers] [Kicad-lib-committers] Silk screens over pads and naming

2014-06-13 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 08:33:02PM +0100, John Beard wrote: > OK, I won't worry too much about it and get one with making more > footprints! Are there any more things you'd like to see changed? No > matter how tiny! These are already *way* nicer than the ones I use at the moment:D You know, usual

Re: [Kicad-developers] [Kicad-lib-committers] Silk screens over pads and naming

2014-06-13 Thread John Beard
On 13/06/14 19:36, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote: > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 06:46:37PM +0100, John Beard wrote: >> The silk screen is put so it can be seen after soldering. The ASCII art >> arrow is an assembly layer feature, modelled after the IPC standard. > > Sorry my fault. I was thinking was a fa

Re: [Kicad-developers] [Kicad-lib-committers] Silk screens over pads and naming

2014-06-13 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 06:46:37PM +0100, John Beard wrote: > The silk screen is put so it can be seen after soldering. The ASCII art > arrow is an assembly layer feature, modelled after the IPC standard. Sorry my fault. I was thinking was a fancy silk. IPC assemblies are simply notched rectangles

Re: [Kicad-developers] [Kicad-lib-committers] Silk screens over pads and naming

2014-06-08 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 11:35:26AM -0400, Jean-Paul Louis wrote: > When the board is fully assembled, the outline is meaningless, only the > RefDes keep its value. Pin 1/polarization marks keep their value for inspection. > And there is no difference in purpose between Through Hole and Surface

Re: [Kicad-developers] [Kicad-lib-committers] Silk screens over pads and naming

2014-06-02 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 10:32:18AM -0400, Jean-Paul Louis wrote: > Guys, > > I am reading all this thread, and I am amazed that people suggest a silk > shape that will HAVE TO BE REMOVED by the PCB fabricator. The industry took a long time to discover this, too :D And it isn't a full standard ye

Re: [Kicad-developers] [Kicad-lib-committers] Silk screens over pads and naming

2014-06-02 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Guys, I am reading all this thread, and I am amazed that people suggest a silk shape that will HAVE TO BE REMOVED by the PCB fabricator. This is adding cost to a PCB without any value added. The example shown by Lorenzo is a very good example. The yellow rectangle has zero value AND an extra co

Re: [Kicad-developers] [Kicad-lib-committers] Silk screens over pads and naming

2014-06-01 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 10:42:33PM +0100, John Beard wrote: > I have never registered erasure of silk over pads as a problem, no > fabricator has ever complained or delivered over-printed pads. Has > anyone seen this happen? Neither have I. Simply because our fabricator erase everything in 0.2mm o