[Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

Hi folks, I'm making this thread so Bob has a place to bring up his usability problems. I have a hard time following the mailing list when threads diverge, and making multiple threads really helps me out. Adam Wolf ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.n

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

On Apr 1, 2015, at 14:10, Adam Wolf wrote: Hi folks, I'm making this thread so Bob has a place to bring up his usability problems. I have a hard time following the mailing list when threads diverge, and making multiple threads really helps me out. Adam Wolf ___Bob Gustafson w

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

On 04/01/2015 10:23 PM, Bob Gustafson wrote: > I just now downloaded your OS X nightly build (both debug and regular) on my > wife’s Mac mini. She does not like the trackpad and has an Apple Mouse > (latest model) -> more or less a standard Mac (it does have a Cinema 30 from > a previous Mac). >

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

Hi everyone, I am using a 5k IMac with a standard PC logitech mouse. I have the nightly build 5547 installed. I do not experience any problems with zooming in GAL. (Besides the already reported bug with the F2 button) What I do experience is the lack of rats nest. Sometimes when zooming there

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

Super - I will go out and get a standard PC logitech mouse. According to the reports on the 5k iMac, you have 14.7 million pixels with a resolution of 5,120x2,880 - very impressive. Bandwidth to the screen is beyond Thunderbolt 2, so no wonder you have some slowness moving pixels. There may

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

Up to now I also didn’t find any way to have a “middle button” with only Apple gear (there seem to be some tools for simulating, but I didn’t try them yet). So, it might work with a normal PC mouse, but why should I want to use such a thing in an Apple environment - or, just buy one to be able t

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

On 02.04.2015 11:01, Bernhard Stegmaier wrote: > For me, this is still the reason why KiCad without Garths panning patches is > just a no-go on OSX. Adam, Wayne, I guess there's no problem with merging these patches to the Mac stable release, especially since we need to build a patched wxWidgets

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

I don't want to make that choice. I will leave that up to Wayne. I will support making builds of whatever he chooses. Adam Wolf On Apr 2, 2015 9:31 AM, "Tomasz Wlostowski" wrote: > On 02.04.2015 11:01, Bernhard Stegmaier wrote: > > For me, this is still the reason why KiCad without Garths pann

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

Otherwise you might want to make a build and put it into the DEBUG folder for testing. Den 02/04/2015 15.34 skrev "Adam Wolf" : > I don't want to make that choice. I will leave that up to Wayne. > > I will support making builds of whatever he chooses. > > Adam Wolf > On Apr 2, 2015 9:31 AM, "Toma

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

I've commented on this before. It breaks zoom and pan behavior on windows and linux so it cannot be committed until it is fixed. I don't have an issue with providing nightly osx builds for users to test but I would tread carefully here. It seems that some osx users are using alternate pointing d

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

I have a DEBUG/ folder in the nightlies directory for bugfix-confirmation builds. I'll take a look at doing the wrapper, but unfortunately it's toward the bottom of my list, until the stables get closer. If anyone else wants to work on this, feel free! :) Adam Wolf On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 9:54 A

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

> On Apr 2, 2015, at 1:24 AM, Piotr Esden-Tempski wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I am using a 5k IMac with a standard PC logitech mouse. I have the nightly > build 5547 installed. > > I do not experience any problems with zooming in GAL. (Besides the already > reported bug with the F2 button) W

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

On 04/02/2015 04:05 PM, Andy Peters wrote: [... > I also have the GAL rats-nest issue Piotr mentions. Does it mean it is never visible? Even when you are dragging components? Are there OS X users for whom it works properly? Regards, Orson signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature _

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

I had personally been wondering when GAL mode would support a ratsnest, so I have a feeling it is across the board for OS X :) Adam Wolf On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Maciej Sumiński wrote: > On 04/02/2015 04:05 PM, Andy Peters wrote: > [... > > I also have the GAL rats-nest issue Piotr ment

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

In response to your previous comments, Wayne, I said: "I can’t guarantee that I’ll be able to do anything, but I will try. I have no Windows or Linux machines so if someone could provide me a Windows binary of the trackpad branch maybe I can beg or borrow a box to at least observe the behavior

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

> On Apr 2, 2015, at 9:06 AM, Garth Corral wrote: > > In response to your previous comments, Wayne, I said: > > "I can’t guarantee that I’ll be able to do anything, but I will try. > > I have no Windows or Linux machines so if someone could provide me a Windows > binary of the trackpad branc

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

On 04/02/2015 09:05 AM, Andy Peters wrote: On Apr 2, 2015, at 1:24 AM, Piotr Esden-Tempski wrote: Hi everyone, I am using a 5k IMac with a standard PC logitech mouse. I have the nightly build 5547 installed. I do not experience any problems with zooming in GAL. (Besides the already report

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

I will work hard on getting nightlies with the trackpad patch applied, in the DEBUG/trackpad/ directory. Adam Wolf Cofounder and Engineer W&L On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Bob Gustafson wrote: > > > On 04/02/2015 09:05 AM, Andy Peters wrote: > >> On Apr 2, 2015, at 1:24 AM, Piotr Esden-Tempsk

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

Thanks very much for your comments. At least I don't feel so alone. Best regards - Bob G On 04/02/2015 04:01 AM, Bernhard Stegmaier wrote: Up to now I also didn’t find any way to have a “middle button” with only Apple gear (there seem to be some tools for simulating, but I didn’t try them yet)

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

I haven't noticed it, but my pcbnew designs still have only 3 wires.. Bob G On 04/02/2015 09:43 AM, Maciej Sumiński wrote: On 04/02/2015 04:05 PM, Andy Peters wrote: [... I also have the GAL rats-nest issue Piotr mentions. Does it mean it is never visible? Even when you are dragging component

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

I have OSX and Linux (Fedora21) development environments, but no Windows. My luck at generating fully operational OSX binaries is spotty - perhaps due to multiple boost libraries (still working this out). As I recall, I did merge your trackpad branch with the then current head and I think I did s

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

Super - will look for them Bob G On 04/02/2015 12:31 PM, Adam Wolf wrote: I will work hard on getting nightlies with the trackpad patch applied, in the DEBUG/trackpad/ directory. Adam Wolf Cofounder and Engineer W&L On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Bob Gustafson mailto:bob...@rcn.com>> wrote:

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

Hi Maciek, I just tested it a bit more. The behaviour of the ratsnest is a bit confusing here. Let me describe it with the steps I took and what I observed. These are steps on a completely new pcb. * open pcbnew (leave in default mode) * Read netlist * Spread out All Footprints (Ratsnest wire

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

On 02.04.2015 21:17, Piotr Esden-Tempski wrote: > Hi Maciek, > > I just tested it a bit more. The behaviour of the ratsnest is a bit > confusing here. Let me describe it with the steps I took and what I > observed. These are steps on a completely new pcb. > > * open pcbnew (leave in default mode)

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

> On Apr 2, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Tomasz Wlostowski > wrote: > > On 02.04.2015 21:17, Piotr Esden-Tempski wrote: >> Hi Maciek, >> >> I just tested it a bit more. The behaviour of the ratsnest is a bit >> confusing here. Let me describe it with the steps I took and what I >> observed. These are st

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

> On Apr 2, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Piotr Esden-Tempski wrote: > > >> On Apr 2, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Tomasz Wlostowski > > wrote: >> >> On 02.04.2015 21:17, Piotr Esden-Tempski wrote: >>> Hi Maciek, >>> >>> I just tested it a bit more. The behaviour of the ratsnest i

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

> On Apr 2, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Piotr Esden-Tempski wrote: > > >> On Apr 2, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Piotr Esden-Tempski wrote: >> >> >>> On Apr 2, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Tomasz Wlostowski >>> wrote: >>> >>> On 02.04.2015 21:17, Piotr Esden-Tempski wrote: Hi Maciek, I just tested it a

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

Come on, this is an issue that has always existed in GAL as far as I can remember. A bug has recently been reported on this on a workaround. I hope this can see be resolved. This happens also on linux. https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1438406 2015-04-02 22:16 GMT+02:00 Piotr Esden-Tempski :

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sden.net>>, Maciej Sumiński mailto:maciej.sumin...@cern.ch>> Cc: Adam Wolf mailto:adamw...@feelslikeburning.com>>, "kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net>" mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net>> Subject: Re: [Kic

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

Hi Garth Please try out the new build I have made. It is made against your branch, hence the lower revision number. http://www2.futureware.at/~nickoe/kicad-osx-trackpad-gestures-r5277.5c2b56a-i686.exe Nick P.S. you sent this only to me, but I think it contain way too much information to miss th

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

Got it. Thanks. Garth > On Apr 3, 2015, at 5:19 AM, Nick Østergaard wrote: > > Hi Garth > > Please try out the new build I have made. It is made against your > branch, hence the lower revision number. > > http://www2.futureware.at/~nickoe/kicad-osx-trackpad-gestures-r5277.5c2b56a-i686.exe

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 20:57 GMT+02:00 Garth Corral : > Thanks, Nick. If you can point me to a build of this I will do what I can to > look into the issues reported by Wayne. Next week will be very difficult for > me to do this but I’ll try to get to it the following week. > > Just to clarify, here are the

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

Testing report on this nightly build: Application: kicad Version: (2015-04-03 BZR 5572)-product Release build wxWidgets: Version 3.0.2 (debug,UTF-8,compiler with C++ ABI 1002,GCC 4.2.1,STL containers,compatible with 2.8) Platform: Mac OS X (Darwin 14.1.0 x86_64), 64 bit, Little endian, wxMac Boos

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

Hi all, I haven't added any trackpad stuff to any of the nightlies, so this is just the regular Python nightly. Adam Wolf Cofounder and Engineer W&L On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Bob Gustafson wrote: > Testing report on this nightly build: > > Application: kicad > Version: (2015-04-03 BZR

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

> On Apr 4, 2015, at 8:15 AM, Bob Gustafson wrote: > > Testing report on this nightly build: > > Application: kicad > Version: (2015-04-03 BZR 5572)-product Release build > wxWidgets: Version 3.0.2 (debug,UTF-8,compiler with C++ ABI 1002,GCC > 4.2.1,STL containers,compatible with 2.8) > Platfo