Re: [Kicad-developers] How do we envision Pad Stacks?

2020-06-12 Thread Evan Shultz
Allegro breaks everything down by layer. I can create padstacks with any given layer count and do something unique on top, internal, and bottom layers with regards to copper, mask, and paste (not internal). Per layer I can set zone connection type (solid, thermals, etc.), zone spoke width, etc. The

Re: [Kicad-developers] How do we envision Pad Stacks?

2020-06-11 Thread Seth Hillbrand
On 2020-06-11 08:35, Jeff Young wrote: >> On 11 Jun 2020, at 16:16, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: >> If not, we >> need to create one to make sure we have it well defined before any >> implementation can be done. > > Just to be clear: I'm not looking at implementing it. But I'd need to know > what d

Re: [Kicad-developers] How do we envision Pad Stacks?

2020-06-11 Thread Rene Pöschl
Hi, my answers below On 11/06/2020 16:54, Jeff Young wrote: I had been assuming that you could define a separate shape for each layer.  Full flexibility, but time-consuming to edit (even with commands such as “push current layer to other layers”). One could have a simple mode and advanced mod

Re: [Kicad-developers] How do we envision Pad Stacks?

2020-06-11 Thread ja...@veith.net
On 11.06.20 17:16, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: I thought at one time we had an initial proposal document written for pad stacks but I cannot seem to find it. I thought it was either Orson or Tom who wrote it but maybe I'm remembering this wrong. If not, we need to create one to make sure we have it

Re: [Kicad-developers] How do we envision Pad Stacks?

2020-06-11 Thread Jeff Young
> On 11 Jun 2020, at 16:16, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > > If not, we > need to create one to make sure we have it well defined before any > implementation can be done. Just to be clear: I’m not looking at implementing it. But I’d need to know what direction we were moving in *if* I were to impl

Re: [Kicad-developers] How do we envision Pad Stacks?

2020-06-11 Thread Jon Evans
In Altium (and I suspect in other commercial tools) there are two different types of pad behavior: when creating/editing/viewing footprints, and when working on the board. When editing footprints, you only have the concept of top, middle, and bottom layers. You don't know the full board stackup.

Re: [Kicad-developers] How do we envision Pad Stacks?

2020-06-11 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
I thought at one time we had an initial proposal document written for pad stacks but I cannot seem to find it. I thought it was either Orson or Tom who wrote it but maybe I'm remembering this wrong. If not, we need to create one to make sure we have it well defined before any implementation can b

[Kicad-developers] How do we envision Pad Stacks?

2020-06-11 Thread Jeff Young
I had been assuming that you could define a separate shape for each layer. Full flexibility, but time-consuming to edit (even with commands such as “push current layer to other layers”). Most users are looking to route traces on inner layers between tight pads. This is commonly done with the