Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-12-02 Thread Seth Hillbrand
On 2019-12-02 17:26, Tim Hawkins wrote: Would this be a suitable starter project? On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 9:19 AM Evan Shultz, wrote: Mark, I agree that the dialog could be improved. And this entire part of KiCad, in fact. But it's also a relatively minor part of KiCad and there are likely m

Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-12-02 Thread Tim Hawkins
Would this be a suitable starter project? On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 9:19 AM Evan Shultz, wrote: > Mark, > > I agree that the dialog could be improved. And this entire part of KiCad, > in fact. But it's also a relatively minor part of KiCad and there are > likely more exciting areas in active developm

Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-12-02 Thread Ian McInerney
Evan, Can you put together a bug report that summaries the problem? With all that is going on now, I think this could slip through the cracks and be forgotten if we don't document it on the tracker. -Ian On Tue, 3 Dec 2019, 00:19 Evan Shultz, wrote: > Mark, > > I agree that the dialog could be

Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-12-02 Thread Evan Shultz
Mark, I agree that the dialog could be improved. And this entire part of KiCad, in fact. But it's also a relatively minor part of KiCad and there are likely more exciting areas in active development. Your question about the template sizes was answered in the previous emails. The answer is that th

Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-12-02 Thread Mark Roszko
There are UX issues with just changing that dropdown. Currently it's quite literally page size. Not templates. Template is the separate entry labeled "Page layout description file". (Just noticed, it should probably display the default loaded template which may hint the user to make a change) If

Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-12-01 Thread Nick Østergaard
I don't really use the page templates myself much. But I think it may be time to rethink the page template concept to help it be easier for the user to also select the correct paper size matching the template. But I think that is better kept in an issue, but I guess keeping the thoughts here are fi

Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-12-01 Thread Evan Shultz
My original request was misinterpreted or otherwise derailed and I'd like to refocus things back to my original question. It was: "Is there a path to get these worksheets added into KiCad so they appear along with the other options in the 'Size' pulldown menu in the Page Settings dialog in Eeschem

Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-12-01 Thread Nick Østergaard
Summa sumarum, from a packaging point of view it is included as it is on other platforms. On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 at 23:42, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > > I downloaded and installed 5.1.5 on my windows box and it looked like > these worksheets were in the template folder. I didn't check the entire > list

Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-12-01 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
I downloaded and installed 5.1.5 on my windows box and it looked like these worksheets were in the template folder. I didn't check the entire list so maybe I got it wrong. On 12/1/19 5:34 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote: > The templates are packaged like everything else with cmake, so if it is > not in

Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-12-01 Thread Nick Østergaard
The templates are packaged like everything else with cmake, so if it is not included it is a bug in the templates repo. On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 at 03:16, Ian McInerney wrote: > They appear to be packaged in the update to Fedora, but I don't have a > Windows install handy to test on to verify what I

Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-11-27 Thread Ian McInerney
They appear to be packaged in the update to Fedora, but I don't have a Windows install handy to test on to verify what I see there: /usr/share/kicad/demos/interf_u/pagelayout_logo.kicad_wks /usr/share/kicad/template/A2_ISO5457-1999_ISO7200-2004-compact_ASMEY1435-2014_EN.kicad_wks /usr/share/kicad/

Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-11-27 Thread Mark Roszko
> Nick, is packaging Windows your domain? Is there any way I could help to get them included in an updated 5.1.5 release or 5.1.6? I know the GitLab stuff is taking a lot of time from everybody but I don't want to let this wither away. He is the main mainter yes. If you want to help him. https://

Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-11-27 Thread Evan Shultz
In 5.1.5_2, on Windows, I don't see these new page layouts. So at least in Windows this wasn't packaged. I don't know about other OSes. Perhaps there's a way to make this more obvious so that when new page layouts are available all packagers are aware? The discussion above reads to me like the KiC

Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-11-14 Thread Evan Shultz
Thanks Seth! It would be great to have more templates available for KiCad users. You can ping me for the review when you post the PR. On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 9:44 PM Seth Hillbrand wrote: > On 2019-11-13 15:54, Evan Shultz wrote: > > The contributor submitted ISO templates and the librarians hav

Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-11-13 Thread Seth Hillbrand
On 2019-11-13 15:54, Evan Shultz wrote: > The contributor submitted ISO templates and the librarians have access to > those standards, thus the review and merge could proceed. Fair enough > None of the librarians have access to the ASME standards and thus we could > not properly review and ve

Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-11-13 Thread Evan Shultz
Seth, Nobody was excluded. The official KiCad library can only contain elements (symbols, footprints, templates, etc.) which are contributed while elements which aren't contributed aren't in the official library. Simple as that. And I don't see how KiCad's features are being limited. Maybe I'm mis

Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-11-13 Thread Seth Hillbrand
On 11/13/19 10:36 AM, Evan Shultz wrote: Thanks Seth! I didn't find the default template when looking at the code base, but I'm sure it's there and I just didn't find it. So if things are left alone hopefully the packager people will automatically include them? Then hopefully this message thr

Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-11-13 Thread Ian McInerney
I believe the US sizes are provided by the ASME Y14.1-2005 standard. Or at least that seems to be the generic standard for these that I can find (I didn't see anything for ANSI or IEEE). -Ian On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 6:37 PM Evan Shultz wrote: > Thanks Seth! > > I didn't find the default templat

Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-11-13 Thread Evan Shultz
Thanks Seth! I didn't find the default template when looking at the code base, but I'm sure it's there and I just didn't find it. So if things are left alone hopefully the packager people will automatically include them? Then hopefully this message thread will make the packagers aware of new templ

Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-11-13 Thread Seth Hillbrand
On 11/13/19 9:19 AM, Evan Shultz wrote: Seth, Yes, these templates are sized specifically for certain page sizes as defined in the ISO specification. And also for particular sheet orientations. So in Eeschema, the user needs to select the page size and orientation that match the template in o

Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-11-13 Thread Evan Shultz
Seth, Yes, these templates are sized specifically for certain page sizes as defined in the ISO specification. And also for particular sheet orientations. So in Eeschema, the user needs to select the page size and orientation that match the template in order for the scaling to be proper and the tem

Re: [Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-11-13 Thread Seth Hillbrand
On 11/13/19 8:30 AM, Evan Shultz wrote: There have been very nice border and title blocks following industry-standard guidelines merged into the official KiCad library at https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-templates/pull/25. They now reside at https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-templates/tree/master/Wo

[Kicad-developers] New border/title blocks?

2019-11-13 Thread Evan Shultz
There have been very nice border and title blocks following industry-standard guidelines merged into the official KiCad library at https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-templates/pull/25. They now reside at https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-templates/tree/master/Worksheets. Is there a path to get these work