[Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-17 Thread Adam Wolf
Hi folks, I have an updated set of OS X nightlies. I had about 20 users test it out last week, and one user had a horrible problem and pcbnew wouldn't start, and it looked like a classic bundle paths issue that we've had and solved about 10 times, but the other 19 seemed to have everything work f

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-17 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Great work Adam! All you OSX users out there, please help Adam out by testing the bundles so we can get regular nightly builds for OSX. On 2/17/2015 12:50 PM, Adam Wolf wrote: > Hi folks, > > I have an updated set of OS X nightlies. I had about 20 users test it > out last week, and one user ha

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-17 Thread Martijn Kuipers
Hi Adam, I just quickly opened some of my boards and all work as expected. KiCad has become huge….600MB for “just” KiCad and 860MB for the footprints (offline usage). It works great though, thanks. /Martijn > On 17 Feb 2015, at 19:26, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > > Great work Adam! All you O

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-17 Thread Maciej Sumiński
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Adam, Good job! Even though I am not a Mac user, it is great to see that someone really cares about the platform. It might be a good idea to announce it on the user mailing list, at least once you are ready to receive much more reports. What do

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-17 Thread Bob Gustafson
Hi Adam I put your dmgs up on my Mac. It is very nice to see the 'Help' and Documents show up now when I click on the Help menu! Thanks much for getting that straightened out (at least for me). The problems I had were that copying the fp-lib-table from your dmg to my ~/Library/Preferences/ki

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-17 Thread Adam Wolf
Thanks! I will fix the library table file--it was one of the last things I added. Not sure about the pcbnew issue. I'll take a look. Adam Wolf On Feb 17, 2015 5:59 PM, "Bob Gustafson" wrote: > Hi Adam > > I put your dmgs up on my Mac. It is very nice to see the 'Help' and > Documents show up

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-17 Thread Andy Peters
> On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:44 PM, Bob Gustafson wrote: > > > There was an issue with the PCBnew display - there were no scrollbars on the > board view. It makes things difficult without those scrollbars. I see scrollbars in my builds when using the Default canvas. In GAL mode the scrollbars van

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-17 Thread Maciej Sumiński
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Andy, In GAL mode there are no scrollbars by design, it is not a Mac OS X issue. Do users miss them? Regards, Orson On 02/18/2015 01:41 AM, Andy Peters wrote: > >> On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:44 PM, Bob Gustafson >> wrote: >> >> >> There was an i

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-17 Thread Garth Corral
> On Feb 17, 2015, at 5:05 PM, Maciej Sumiński wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hi Andy, > > In GAL mode there are no scrollbars by design, it is not a Mac OS X > issue. Do users miss them? > No. In fact I’ve disabled them for the default canvas as well in my

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-17 Thread Blair Bonnett
On 18 February 2015 at 14:05, Maciej Sumiński wrote: > > In GAL mode there are no scrollbars by design, it is not a Mac OS X > issue. Do users miss them? Personally I'd never noticed there were scrollbars in the default canvas, let alone that they were missing in GAL mode... A quick search on th

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-17 Thread devel
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hi Andy, > > In GAL mode there are no scrollbars by design, it is not a Mac OS X > issue. Do users miss them? I didn't think it was a Mac issue but I don't test on other platforms. As for missing them, this is interesting. I actually hadn't

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-17 Thread Bob Gustafson
OK, View->default, I do see the scrollbars. View->openGL and View->Cairo, I don't see scrollbars. In all views, my trackpad (up-down or sideways) just controls the zoom. No panning. What are the recommended settings for a built-in trackpad with one clicker? Bob G On 02/17/2015 07:33 PM, Blair

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-17 Thread Nick Østergaard
You should try out Garth's OS X trackpad patch, see the email thread https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg15527.html It will add another option to the properties window, where you can enable this feature, and it probably make it better to use for some people. I have tested it on linux

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Bernhard Stegmaier
Hi Adam, looks great! Small question: I noticed that in the non-extras dmg there are ~370MB 3D-models in kicad/packages3d. Is that on purpose? I would have expected those also in the extra-dmg along with the footprints… Regards, Bernhard On 17.02.2015, at 18:50, Adam Wolf wrote: > Hi folks,

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Miguel Ángel Ajo
Awesome work Adam!, I will spend some cycles in testing it this night ;) Miguel Ángel Ajo On Wednesday, 18 de February de 2015 at 09:27, Bernhard Stegmaier wrote: > Hi Adam, > > looks great! > > Small question: > I noticed that in the non-extras dmg there are ~370MB 3D-models in > kicad/pa

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Adam Wolf
Bernhard, I was under the impression that 3d models do not come automatically from github without downloading. If they come through fine, then they should definitely be moved to the extras dmg. Adam Wolf Cofounder and Engineer Wayne and Layne On Feb 18, 2015 2:27 AM, "Bernhard Stegmaier" wrote:

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Miguel Ángel Ajo
More path stuff (sorry Adam.. ‘:D ) I tried the kicad templates, but I wasn’t pointed out to the templates when trying to create a project from templates. Miguel Ángel Ajo On Wednesday, 18 de February de 2015 at 14:32, Adam Wolf wrote: > Bernhard, > I was under the impression that 3d models

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Adam Wolf
No big deal, I think we are past the point where any person uses all the KiCad features. Until we get some testing in there, this is going to happen sometimes :) I'll take a look at the template path. Adam Wolf Cofounder and Engineer Wayne and Layne On Feb 18, 2015 7:33 AM, "Miguel Ángel Ajo" w

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Bob Gustafson
As many folks on this list have pointed out, a mousewheel is useful for panning up and down. The OSX trackpad has this same usefulness, but also includes left/right as well as up/down. Pinch is a one dimensional gesture and it matches the one dimensional zoom behavior. However, these behavio

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Just a quick note for developers thinking about adding new features or changing the behavior of existing features, the deadline will be when we merge the diff pair router from CERN. I'm expecting that to be within the next few weeks. After that, I'm going to resist adding new features until after

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Adam Wolf
Hi Wayne, Once Garth replies, let's open another thread about the OS X trackpad patch of his. I've been using it locally on OS X for a while, and it's been really nice. I had Nick try it out on Linux as well. It does change a little bit of behavior on non-OS X systems, which is why I'm looking

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
I would rather the extra files be distributed with the bundle for new users. That is the target audience for the nightly builds. I'm still seeing a lot of help requests by users about missing libraries and documentation and their configuration. I would rather error on the side of caution in this

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Adam Wolf
Hi Wayne, Sure. Let me quickly summarize how it's set up now. There's a kicad.$date.dmg, that has all the docs, all the libraries, no footprints, and all the 3d models. It's set up to grab the footprints from github. There's a readme, that is mostly static, but has some "at build time" generat

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Bernhard Stegmaier
Hi Adam, ah, I see. The extras-dmg only delivers footprints that you could get via github plugin without the extras-dmg. Yes, then you probably need to include them to the main bundle. Note to the others… The only thing that would me prevent to use official builds and still build myself is that

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Adam, I think you made the prudent design decision to make the pretty footprints available locally as an option. Nice job with the readme. This should get new users up and running quickly. Thanks, Wayne On 2/18/2015 10:29 AM, Adam Wolf wrote: > Hi Wayne, > > Sure. Let me quickly summarize ho

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Andy Peters
> On Feb 18, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > > Adam, > > I think you made the prudent design decision to make the pretty > footprints available locally as an option. Nice job with the readme. > This should get new users up and running quickly. > > Thanks, > > Wayne Can the locat

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Adam Wolf
Sure. The plan was to upload these to the kicad-pcb.org location as soon as I verified they worked well. Bob found a small issue with the library table in the extras dmg, and I fixed it and am regenerating a build now. I think that everyone seems to be OK with the packages as they are, so once I

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Bob Gustafson
Hi Adam Are you going to use a more up-to-date version? The version of the current Nightly seems to be many nights in the past. I'm watching kicad-pcb.org for the next Nightly. Thanks much Bob G On 02/18/2015 12:45 PM, Adam Wolf wrote: Sure. The plan was to upload these to the kicad-pcb.or

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Adam Wolf
Also, they ones I posted are not ancient--they're from last week. :) Adam Wolf On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Adam Wolf wrote: > Whoops, sent from wrong address. > -- Forwarded message -- > From: "Adam Wolf" > Date: Feb 18, 2015 3:57 PM > Subje

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Martijn Kuipers
f" mailto:adamww...@gmail.com>> > Date: Feb 18, 2015 3:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update > To: "Bob Gustafson" mailto:bob...@rcn.com>> > Cc: <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net>> > > The nightlies will be b

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Bob Gustafson
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Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Bob Gustafson
I'm working on the build of Garth's stuff. I'm using lp:~gcorral/kicad/osx-trackpad-gestures as mentioned in Nick's email below. The wxPython build script (osx_build_wx.sh) is missing the do_patch for the wxwidgets-3.0.2_macosx_yosemite.patch Without it, the build for wxPython quits with th

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Garth Corral
Hi, Nick There were a couple of things that prevented me from requesting a merge. The first was simply that it had little to no testing on other than OS X, and I wanted to get more flight time on other platforms and pointing devices to make sure it behaves well. The other thing that I can rec

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Bob Gustafson
I'm building Garth's stuff This was what I did: Directory structure KiCad-TP osx-trackpad-gestures wx-src wx-bin Other files you want to keep == Load source files for wxPython into the wx-src directory Built wxPython using the script: (see attached script - but it is listed below

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-18 Thread Nick Østergaard
2015-02-19 5:10 GMT+01:00 Garth Corral : > Hi, Nick > > There were a couple of things that prevented me from requesting a merge. The > first was simply that it had little to no testing on other than OS X, and I > wanted to get more flight time on other platforms and pointing devices to > make s

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-19 Thread Adam Wolf
Hi folks, This is the post where Garth expressed concern about merging due to the trackpad patch changing how things work. I think he's talking about the delta with the scrollwheel--not sure. https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg15604.html Adam Wolf Cofounder and Engineer W&L On Thu

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-19 Thread Bob Gustafson
After the 'make' finished successfully, I did: sudo make install 2>&1 | tee ../ki-install01.out I have been testing the results and don't see any trackpad action. It operates as if there were no trackpad code. Also, because it is based on an older version (5270), there is no view menu - so I c

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-19 Thread Garth Corral
Thanks, Adam. Before I respond, I’d just like to say to Adam what a fantastic job he’s done with the OS X nightly packages. I took a look at these and they’re great. Others have pointed out a few remaining niggles, but these are tiny compared to the huge win for the Kicad and the OS X users.

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Nightlies Update

2015-02-19 Thread Nick Østergaard
2015-02-19 19:45 GMT+01:00 Garth Corral : > Thanks, Adam. > > Before I respond, I’d just like to say to Adam what a fantastic job he’s > done with the OS X nightly packages. I took a look at these and they’re > great. Others have pointed out a few remaining niggles, but these are tiny > compared