Re: [Kicad-developers] Some of our symbols currently still have invisible power pins. We want to fix this but want to give you guys a chance for input first.

2018-11-07 Thread Kevin Cozens
On 2018-11-07 7:55 a.m., Wayne Stambaugh wrote: Am 2018-11-06 16:41, schrieb Rene Pöschl: Sadly we did not come around to fix all symbols before the v5 release. [snip]>> Do we need to do this during 5.1?  Or can it simply be done in the v6 branch of the libraries? If we need to do this duri

Re: [Kicad-developers] Some of our symbols currently still have invisible power pins. We want to fix this but want to give you guys a chance for input first.

2018-11-07 Thread Rene Pöschl
On 07/11/18 17:39, Kevin Cozens wrote:ons I was thinking that option 3 might be the best How will not hiding pins affect IC's with multiple parts (e.g. a 7400)? Will each part have the power and ground pins? Like we did with the 4xxx series parts. There will be a further unit added that only h

Re: [Kicad-developers] Some of our symbols currently still have invisible power pins. We want to fix this but want to give you guys a chance for input first.

2018-11-07 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 11/6/2018 6:14 PM, Seth Hillbrand wrote: > Hi Rene- > > Am 2018-11-06 16:41, schrieb Rene Pöschl: >> Sadly we did not come around to fix all symbols before the v5 release. >> We now seem to have a volunteer who would be prepared to fix these >> symbols. >> >> There is a catch though. Whatever w

Re: [Kicad-developers] Some of our symbols currently still have invisible power pins. We want to fix this but want to give you guys a chance for input first.

2018-11-06 Thread Seth Hillbrand
Hi Rene- Am 2018-11-06 16:41, schrieb Rene Pöschl: Sadly we did not come around to fix all symbols before the v5 release. We now seem to have a volunteer who would be prepared to fix these symbols. There is a catch though. Whatever we do to fix this it will break designs that use the old symbol

Re: [Kicad-developers] Some of our symbols currently still have invisible power pins. We want to fix this but want to give you guys a chance for input first.

2018-11-06 Thread Rene Pöschl
Only logic family libs are affected. The 4xxx lib is already done. This leaves 4 libs at most. (I have no access to kicad right at this moment so i can not check.) Only option 2 ends up with multiples of the lib. In option 3 we will rename the lib (meaning a new lib will be added and the origi

Re: [Kicad-developers] Some of our symbols currently still have invisible power pins. We want to fix this but want to give you guys a chance for input first.

2018-11-06 Thread Diego Herranz
Hi, Rene. Thanks for bringing this up. I've never liked hidden power pins. In my opinion, the python philosophy applies here too: "Explicit is better than implicit." How many libraries will need this? I'm asking because, if we went for option 3 (or 2), will we end up with a lot of nearly identica

[Kicad-developers] Some of our symbols currently still have invisible power pins. We want to fix this but want to give you guys a chance for input first.

2018-11-06 Thread Rene Pöschl
Hi all, Sadly we did not come around to fix all symbols before the v5 release. We now seem to have a volunteer who would be prepared to fix these symbols. There is a catch though. Whatever we do to fix this it will break designs that use the old symbols right now. So we have a few options