Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] Eeschema: simulator: use dotted traces for current and phase.

2019-11-22 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Makes sense to me. On 11/21/19 5:10 PM, Jon Evans wrote: > I can add the simulator to the scope of effort to do the whole settings > files upgrade for 6.0 > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 5:06 PM Wayne Stambaugh > wrote: > > > On 11/21/19 1:15 PM, Kymatica wrote: >

Re: [Kicad-developers] Back annotate references from PCB

2019-11-22 Thread Alexander Shuklin
Excuse me for so much questions. There's plenty of ways how it can be done, and I'm quite new, maybe I don't see some simple way. I can back up data from pcbnew which is not up to date to schematics, after that I call update pcb dialog. Somebody will want to update pcb by references and after that

Re: [Kicad-developers] Back annotate references from PCB

2019-11-22 Thread Brian Piccioni
Wayne  I thought I would weigh in as I am collaborating with Alexander. If a designer manually re-annotates a board and schematics he would follow a number of steps: Ensure the schematics, PCB, and netlist are coherent and without error (I.e. nothing in the schematics or PCB which is not in the

[Kicad-developers] What does "when in doubt do it opposite than certain other pcb tool" stand for?

2019-11-22 Thread Rene Pöschl
Hi guys, the roadmap has the following section: > Study ergonomics of various commercial/proprietary PCB applications (when in doubt about any particular UI solution, check how it has been done in a certain proprietary app that is very

Re: [Kicad-developers] 5.1.5 release tag

2019-11-22 Thread Adam Wolf
Of course, while there could be bugs in anything at any time :) the main thing I'm concerned about is that I recently made a change to the packager that builds release builds with a release version of wxwidgets. We were getting debug assertions popping up sometimes (which are in Launchpad) on

Re: [Kicad-developers] Back annotate references from PCB

2019-11-22 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
I would prefer that you did ask questions rather than spending a lot of development time on a solution that would not be accepted because it breaks things. This is not a trivial problem although it may appear that way. There are plenty of ways to implement back annotation that will break things

Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] Selection appearance options

2019-11-22 Thread Seth Hillbrand
On 11/21/19 8:01 AM, Jonatan Liljedahl wrote: Hi, Here comes two patches regarding the selection appearance. Patch #1: Adds three new options in the settings dialog: - Draw selected text items as box Instead of drawing a stroked shadow behind the text, a rounded rectangle is drawn according

Re: [Kicad-developers] Back annotate references from PCB

2019-11-22 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
There is no need to create your own dialog. Just call the update board from schematic function before you back annotate. You will have to make a temporary copy of your board reference changes because updating from the schematic will clobber any reference changes in the board. On 11/22/19 9:13

Re: [Kicad-developers] 5.1.5 release tag

2019-11-22 Thread Andy Peters
> On Nov 22, 2019, at 8:02 AM, Adam Wolf wrote: > > If folks on 10.14 or 10.15 could test > https://kicad-downloads.s3.cern.ch/osx/stable/kicad-unified-5.1.5-rc1-10_14.dmg, > and anyone still on 10.13 or lower could test >

Re: [Kicad-developers] Back annotate references from PCB

2019-11-22 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Hi Alexander, You must ensure that all of the reference paths are up to date with the schematic before you attempt to back annotate from the board. Schematic changes can result in the footprint paths in the board being out of sync so you have to perform and update board from schematic (this code

Re: [Kicad-developers] 5.1.5 release tag

2019-11-22 Thread Adam Wolf
If folks on 10.14 or 10.15 could test https://kicad-downloads.s3.cern.ch/osx/stable/kicad-unified-5.1.5-rc1-10_14.dmg, and anyone still on 10.13 or lower could test https://kicad-downloads.s3.cern.ch/osx/stable/kicad-unified-5.1.5-rc2.dmg, that would be great. Adam On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 7:11

[Kicad-developers] KiCad joins the Linux Foundation

2019-11-22 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
I just pushed a blog post to the KiCad website that KiCad has joined the Linux Foundation so consider this the official announcement. The project did this to give donors a choice of how they want to donate to KiCad and it gives us some more flexibility on how we can spend donation money. This

Re: [Kicad-developers] Back annotate references from PCB

2019-11-22 Thread Alexander Shuklin
Hi Wayne, I don't want to start PCB update from eeschema straight away, because if you run back-annotation, you already changed some references in layout and you gonna lose it. And probably you can get some footprints which are not connected to any of components in schematics as there's

Re: [Kicad-developers] Back annotate references from PCB

2019-11-22 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
You got it! Schematic files can be shared multiple times not only in the current schematic but multiple times in other project schematics as well. You could have a symbol in a schematic file with the same reference more than once with many different sheet paths. On 11/22/19 6:55 AM, Alexander

Re: [Kicad-developers] Building Kicad on Windows 10/Eclipse/Msys2

2019-11-22 Thread Brian Piccioni
Simon  I have never figured out how to use git to fetch sources. If you can direct me to something like a Linux command line example I would appreciate it otherwise I’ll set it as a background task. Brian From: Simon RichterSent: November 22, 2019 6:46 AMTo:

Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] Eeschema: simulator: use dotted traces for current and phase.

2019-11-22 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
This would be a great long term solution. You could also store it in the project file since it is project specific if you don't want to go through the effort of designing a new s-expression file format. On 11/21/19 6:45 PM, Ian McInerney wrote: > I think it would be good to define a new

Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad joins the Linux Foundation

2019-11-22 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 11/22/19 2:39 PM, Mark Roszko wrote: >> I need to add a "Donate via Linux Foundation" button to the KiCad > website main page.  > > But is it in addition to or to replace CERN? In addition to. > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:03 PM Wayne Stambaugh >

Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad joins the Linux Foundation

2019-11-22 Thread Mark Roszko
> I need to add a "Donate via Linux Foundation" button to the KiCad website main page. But is it in addition to or to replace CERN? On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:03 PM Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > I just pushed a blog post to the KiCad website that KiCad has joined the > Linux Foundation so

Re: [Kicad-developers] Back annotate references from PCB

2019-11-22 Thread Andy Peters
> On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:42 PM, Brian wrote: > >>> On 22 Nov 2019, at 19:29, Brian >> > wrote: >>> >>> From the peanut gallery: >>> >>> Can someone tell me an example use-case for a single schematic symbol >>> corresponding to multiple board entities within a

Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad joins the Linux Foundation

2019-11-22 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
I was wondering about that myself. We can try a donate page and see how it works. We can always change it if we don't like it. On 11/22/19 3:53 PM, Mark Roszko wrote: > I'm not sure about adding a second button in the header. > > I am envisioning creating a "Donate" page with both CERN and

Re: [Kicad-developers] Back annotate references from PCB

2019-11-22 Thread Jeff Young
Hi Brian, Imagine you’re doing an audio amplifier. Your main schematic sheet has 4 subsheets: PSU, control logic, left channel and right channel. Both left channel and right channel point to the same sub-page. So there’s a single schematic symbol for each part in the left & right channel,

Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad joins the Linux Foundation

2019-11-22 Thread Nick Østergaard
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 at 18:03, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > > I just pushed a blog post to the KiCad website that KiCad has joined the > Linux Foundation so consider this the official announcement. The > project did this to give donors a choice of how they want to donate to > KiCad and it gives us

Re: [Kicad-developers] Back annotate references from PCB

2019-11-22 Thread Brian
From the peanut gallery: Can someone tell me an example use-case for a single schematic symbol corresponding to multiple board entities within a single project? As perhaps a rather naïve PCB designer, it seems like mostly a bad idea to me to have anything other than 1:1. Thanks, -Brian

Re: [Kicad-developers] Back annotate references from PCB

2019-11-22 Thread Brian
Hi Jeff, Thanks for helping me understand this.  So how would someone looking at the schematic know that this one symbol represents both Q101 and Q201?  For that matter, if there's some instructions or a tutorial about creating a situation like this (one schematic drawing representing

Re: [Kicad-developers] Back annotate references from PCB

2019-11-22 Thread Jeff Young
Hi Brian, If you double-click into the left channel you’ll see Q101. If you double-click into the right, you’ll see Q201. So it looks like there are two. But if you edit either one it goes back to a single file so both will be changed. (To be honest I’ve never used this feature, so I’m not

Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad joins the Linux Foundation

2019-11-22 Thread Jeff Young
Addition. Folks are free to continue to use CERN if they want. > On 22 Nov 2019, at 19:39, Mark Roszko wrote: > > > I need to add a "Donate via Linux Foundation" button to the KiCad > website main page. > > But is it in addition to or to replace CERN? > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at

Re: [Kicad-developers] Back annotate references from PCB

2019-11-22 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
What Jeff described is the simplest case. Where things really get interesting is when you start sharing schematic files between projects. When this happens, there will entries in a symbol definition for each instance (sheet) of the schematic file in every project. Here is an sample symbol

Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad joins the Linux Foundation

2019-11-22 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 11/22/19 3:23 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote: > On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 at 18:03, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: >> >> I just pushed a blog post to the KiCad website that KiCad has joined the >> Linux Foundation so consider this the official announcement. The >> project did this to give donors a choice of how

Re: [Kicad-developers] Back annotate references from PCB

2019-11-22 Thread Andy Peters
> On Nov 22, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Dino Ghilardi wrote: > > Just my two cents on this. > > Considering that the actual "manual work-around" to do the "back annotation" > now can be: > > -Open pcbnew and eeschema at the same time > -Select the component you want to rename on pcbnew > -the right

Re: [Kicad-developers] Back annotate references from PCB

2019-11-22 Thread Dino Ghilardi
On 22/11/19 23:14, Andy Peters wrote: On Nov 22, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Dino Ghilardi wrote: Just my two cents on this. Considering that the actual "manual work-around" to do the "back annotation" now can be: -Open pcbnew and eeschema at the same time -Select the component you want to rename

Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad joins the Linux Foundation

2019-11-22 Thread Mark Roszko
I'm not sure about adding a second button in the header. I am envisioning creating a "Donate" page with both CERN and Linux foundation options presented clearly with one big button for each and a small blurb for what each does. The header will go to this intermediate page. On Fri, Nov 22, 2019

Re: [Kicad-developers] Back annotate references from PCB

2019-11-22 Thread Brian
An aside... On 11/22/19 3:14 PM, Andy Peters wrote: Now select that sub-sheet symbol by left-clicking/holding and drawing a rectangle around it. Right-click and choose “duplicate block.” Now you have a new instance of that same sub-sheet. As a user, I would not expect "Duplicate" to mean

Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad joins the Linux Foundation

2019-11-22 Thread Drew Van Zandt
Adding clicks reduces the chance you'll get a donation. On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 5:31 PM Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > On 11/22/19 3:23 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 at 18:03, Wayne Stambaugh > wrote: > >> > >> I just pushed a blog post to the KiCad website that KiCad has joined

Re: [Kicad-developers] Building Kicad on Windows 10/Eclipse/Msys2

2019-11-22 Thread Brian Piccioni
Can Simon or somebody who understands such things verify that the following is correct so I can update my recipe? Thanks == In Mingw64 git clone https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-source-mirror.git This will create a local repository directory called

Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad joins the Linux Foundation

2019-11-22 Thread Sujith Anandan
Hello Wayne, I have already added you as page admin, please accept the request you will get in facebook. Thanks. Sujith On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 5:15 AM Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > I was wondering about that myself. We can try a donate page and see how > it works. We can always change it if we

Re: [Kicad-developers] Back annotate references from PCB

2019-11-22 Thread ja...@veith.net
> On 22.11.19 21:12, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: What Jeff described is the simplest case. Where things really get interesting is when you start sharing schematic files between projects. Imho multiple use of a schematic requires separate instance data. Similar problem for the recently discussed

[Kicad-developers] [PATCH] Enable full CTest framework

2019-11-22 Thread Simon Richter
This allows asking CTest for running the test suite under valgrind --- CMakeLists.txt | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/CMakeLists.txt b/CMakeLists.txt index 7f6ee37a5..81e5dc8ae 100644 --- a/CMakeLists.txt +++ b/CMakeLists.txt @@ -980,7 +980,7 @@ if( UNIX AND

Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad joins the Linux Foundation

2019-11-22 Thread Mark Roszko
It has potential to reduce clicks. But feel free to suggest a change in the visual style that can accommodate two buttons without degrading the website visually or psychology reducing donations too (the "wow these guys look desperate" effect) On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 5:49 PM Drew Van Zandt

Re: [Kicad-developers] Back annotate references from PCB

2019-11-22 Thread jp charras
Le 23/11/2019 à 00:05, ja...@veith.net a écrit : >> On 22.11.19 21:12, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: >> What Jeff described is the simplest case.  Where things really get >> interesting is when you start sharing schematic files between projects. > > Imho multiple use of a schematic requires separate

Re: [Kicad-developers] Building Kicad on Windows 10/Eclipse/Msys2

2019-11-22 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 09:30:48PM -0500, Brian Piccioni wrote: > Download the Kicad source files from > https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-source-mirror; > Untar or unzip into /home/kicad-source-mirror-master This probably should be "use git to get the source tree", otherwise I think this

Re: [Kicad-developers] Back annotate references from PCB

2019-11-22 Thread Alexander Shuklin
Ooops, I just realized what are you own about. I wasn't aware that's it is possible to use schematic sheet twice and have different references in it according to sheet path. I never used it during PCB production :) That's not a problem I will use component "path" rather than just timestamp. Thanks

Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] Eeschema: simulator: use dotted traces for current and phase.

2019-11-22 Thread Jonatan Liljedahl
Right, such configuration could be useful. However, note that a selection of which lines (signals?) to show would be tied to the actual current state of the schematic. Nets changes names, either because user changes the names of labels, or automatically when things get reconnected and re-annotated

[Kicad-developers] [PATCH] Selection appearance options

2019-11-22 Thread Jonatan Liljedahl
Oh, I just realized that when replying on my phone, it got sent from another email address and didn't reach the list! -- Forwarded message - From: Kymatica Date: Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] Selection appearance options To: Kevin Cozens

Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] Eeschema: simulator: use dotted traces for current and phase.

2019-11-22 Thread Jonatan Liljedahl
Also this message didn't reach the list: On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:14 AM Kymatica wrote: > > Hi, > With quick and easy I wasn’t actually referring to the coding involved, but > to the user experience: when I fire up the simulator I (as a user) just want > to see the results and look at the

Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] Eeschema: simulator plot: allow standard mac pan and pinch to zoom

2019-11-22 Thread Jonatan Liljedahl
Hi, I found it. Here's an updated patch that makes it behave exactly as in the schematic editor, and uses the "trackpad pan" common config setting. This should work as expected on Linux. Note that in mathplot.h the coding style git hook complained, but I left it as is because it matches the