Chris C and netters
Whether it be a cold day in Colorado, or a hot one in Arizona or Florida we all 
battle the effects of negative changes in density altitude, or simply lost 
performance due to the expanding air providing less lift, thrust, and engine 
horsepower.  Most seem to get caught up in the engine power part of these 
effects and if it were just that to overcome life would be alot easier.  
According to the Cessna pilot handbooks of operation for the common 152, 172 
variety, the normally aspirated avaition engines seem to lose roughly about 1% 
of horsepower per 1,000 feet of increase in altitude.  This just reflects the 
effect that the altitude has on the engine alone, NOT the effect on the rest of 
the airplane.  You have to then look at the charts for calculating the INCREASE 
in takeoff and landing distance to get an idea of the reduced lift and thrust 
amounts.  In short, if given the same airframe to work with, KR2 or KR2S, one 
must consider not just turbocharging the engine, but also possibly needing to 
adjust the prop, if adjustable or select a different one if high altitude 
flying is the main focus.  A greater pitch may be required for the 10,000 foot 
run to prevent it from being extended excessively, especially on a warmer day.  
Think about starting out at 10,000 feet MSL, and then it is really warm, so the 
density altitude increases by 1,500 feet.  Now your little bird has to be able 
to takeoff at the equivalent MSL altitude of 11,500 feet!  You may literally be 
getting very close to the service ceiling of the airplane!  Typical turbos will 
only normalize up to about 8,000 feet.  So in order for your plane to takeoff 
and climb out safely, since you are bound to have greater issues with rising 
landscape than we do in Florida, you may need a Corvair 6 cyl, and a climb 
prop, or adjustable prop to make your plane safe enough to have the required 
margin for safety, if say you have a power loss, or fuel contamination, and are 
only getting partial power.  At 10,000 you will need to have 10% more engine 
horsepower to just be equal in power to that same engine at sea level.  Now 
somehow you also have to come up with a way to get back the lost 10% of thrust 
at the prop, because even though you are applying the torque to the prop, it is 
trying to make thrust in more expanded air.  Since you can't sweep the wings or 
extend and retract them, (nice idea though) you also have to increase the 
standard plane's performance so that you will end up with 10% more lift at sea 
level to be equal to a standard airplane at your altitude.  This means even 
more from the prop/engine combo.  Since most here say that solo minimum HP 
seems to be about 60, and recommended passenger HP is around 80-100 to be safe, 
a high altitude person would need between say 20-30% more power and the prop 
capable of using that power to make up for the lost lift.  That means an engine 
prop combination of around 100-120HP.   One final consideration often 
overlooked is the fact that since the lift is reduced, it is quite possible 
that the gross weight allowance will have to be significantly lower at these 
altitudes in order for the airplane to get off the ground without a 747 type 
takeoff roll.  It is known that your true airspeed will be higher even though 
indicated speed will be the same, so bare in mind that the landing roll will be 
effected also.

Your test period will be very valuable to learning your plane inorder to be 
safe, and will very likely result in alot of "tweeking"...

3.6 hours of test flying so far...

Colin & Bev Rainey
KR2(td) N96TA
Sanford, FL
crain...@cfl.rr.com
http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html

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