Justin:
I’m sorry to hear you had trouble signing up, initially.
Currently, we’re using K8sPort.org to request the registration. By
requesting at that site, a few folks are automatically notified and can
send you an invite through the hub, itself. The “instant signup” was
discussed, early o
Justin:
I’m sorry to hear you had trouble signing up, initially.
Currently, we’re using K8sPort.org to request the registration. By requesting
at that site, a few folks are automatically notified and can send you an invite
through the hub, itself. The “instant signup” was discussed, early on, b
On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 10:34:31 AM UTC-4, Justin Santa Barbara
(FathomDB) wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 2:13:39 AM UTC-4, Brian Grant wrote:
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> Are there thing we could do to improve k8sport adoption? Would k8sport and 21
> compete for people to accomplish the same task
On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 2:13:39 AM UTC-4, Brian Grant wrote:
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> Are there thing we could do to improve k8sport adoption? Would k8sport and
> 21 compete for people to accomplish the same tasks?
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>
I haven't been able to get an invite to k8sport. Digging out the debugging
tools, it look
On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 3:45 PM, 'Tim Hockin' via Kubernetes Maintainers <
kubernetes-maintain...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Joseph Jacks wrote:
> > Thanks! I do hear you, Tim --- however, I find that such an experiment is
> > worthy in the face of the challenges
+Contributor Experience
On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 9:13 AM, wrote:
> So what I was basically trying to say Daniel and Tim is that I believe
> this matter is much more complex than a binary good/bad switch.
>
> > Something I wanted to do but fell off my plate is to set up a kube
> "janitors" effort.
Ahh, yeah, we need so surge effort to bootstrap
On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Alexis Richardson wrote:
> To be clear: I agree with you about funds and incentives.
>
> I was referring to your on ramps issue (set out below in your email).
>
> Would some kind of "all hands work fest" be a way to
To be clear: I agree with you about funds and incentives.
I was referring to your on ramps issue (set out below in your email).
Would some kind of "all hands work fest" be a way to create the on ramps?
It seems like there is a huge barrier to progress otherwise. If everyone*
could down tools for
I worry that this will DISINCENTIVIZE janitors. People who would do
it for the love of cleaning up a mess, will now see it as a low-paying
job, or won't work without funds.
I think the strongest drivers of work are identity (intrinsic) and
recognition (extrinsic) - "I am a Kubernetes Janitor" and
Tim
Could solving this issue also lead to movement on the "janitors" type
initiatives that Lucas says have worked for Linux?
In general, how can areas that need love/work get advertised/resourced
while staying within the norms of the community?
Alexis
On Tue, 30 May 2017, 04:09 'Tim Hockin' v
I'm not against trying it, I just have my own predictions. I agree
with Aronchick - the biggest issue we have is not that we need more
people - we need better (more actionable) bugs, we need onramps, we
guidance and reviews, and we need to make contributing hurt less
(rebases, verify and update sc
Ok - broadly, I love the experiment, and am supportive of trying it out.
That said, I'm not sure there's any evidence that we lack people, or the
people lack time/motivation, to contribute. Money/extrinsic rewards feels
like it's trying to solve the wrong problem. From everyone I've talked to,
it'
So what I was basically trying to say Daniel and Tim is that I believe this
matter is much more complex than a binary good/bad switch.
> Something I wanted to do but fell off my plate is to set up a kube
"janitors" effort. This has been pretty effective in the Linux
kernel, finding ways for pe
Thanks for the feedback Tim and Daniel
As a independent contributor (+more) working on Kubernetes "for the greater
good" for more than two years I want to say a couple of words:
First it should be stated that we're not in control of whether person A
wants to pay person B for getting a question
Thanks for your feedback, Daniel.
My take on this 1999 study you point to is that it has some major flaws
when taken into current context:
- The world was extremely different when this study was conducted. The
sharing economy did not exist. There were only ~195M people on the Internet
gl
I agree w/ Tim.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overjustification_effect#Volunteering
On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Joseph Jacks wrote:
> CIL
>
> On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 3:45:29 PM UTC-7, Tim Hockin wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Joseph Jacks wrote:
>> > Thanks! I do hear y
CIL
On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 3:45:29 PM UTC-7, Tim Hockin wrote:
>
> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Joseph Jacks > wrote:
> > Thanks! I do hear you, Tim --- however, I find that such an experiment
> is
> > worthy in the face of the challenges the project has in this area. Why
> not
> >
On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Joseph Jacks wrote:
> Thanks! I do hear you, Tim --- however, I find that such an experiment is
> worthy in the face of the challenges the project has in this area. Why not
> have both extrinsic and intrinsic, then see what happens?
That was the point of the study
Thanks! I do hear you, Tim --- however, I find that such an experiment is
worthy in the face of the challenges the project has in this area. Why not
have both extrinsic *and* intrinsic, then see what happens?
Would love more feedback.
On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Tim Hockin wrote:
> Curious
Curiously, I was JUST listening to a radio piece exploring the effects
of intrinsic and extrinsic motivators. It is well understood that
"common purpose" and "for the greater good" (intrinsic motivators) are
more effective than money and stuff (extrinsic motivators). The
interesting part was that
Adding kubernetes-dev and kubernetes-maintainers...
On May 28 2017, at 12:31 am, Joseph Jacks wrote:
https://twitter.com/kubernetesonarm/status/86851953455105Lucas and I got to DM'ing earlier and came up with this over
woops, wrong doc..
correct
doc:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14iJebP1EmUYJ-fSh2NvTN6TRc8JUto2sskWId-u7HTI/edit
On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 2:31:55 PM UTC-7, Joseph Jacks wrote:
>
> https://twitter.com/kubernetesonarm/status/86851953455105
>
> Lucas and I got to DM'ing earlier and cam
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