Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-19 Thread Takahiro Hirofuchi
Hello, 2009/9/30 Anthony Liguori : > Hi, > > Now that 0.11.0 is behind us, it's time to start thinking about 0.12.0. > o storage live migration Sorry for a bit off topic. But, my special NBD server can do this independently of VMM implementations. See http://bitbucket.org/hirofuchi/xnbd/wiki/Ho

Re: Raw vs. tap (was: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Release plan for 0.12.0)

2009-10-15 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 05:53:56PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: > I would be much more inclined to consider > taking raw and improving the performance long term if guest<->host > networking worked. This appears to be a fundamental limitation though > and I think it's something that will for

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-15 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 02:10:00PM -0700, Sridhar Samudrala wrote: > On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 17:50 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 04:19:17PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote: > > > Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 09:17:15AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote

Re: Raw vs. tap (was: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Release plan for 0.12.0)

2009-10-14 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 17:53 -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: > So at this point, I think it's a mistake to include raw socket support. > If the goal is to improve networking usability such that it just works > as a root user, let's incorporate a default network script that creates > a bridge or s

Raw vs. tap (was: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Release plan for 0.12.0)

2009-10-14 Thread Anthony Liguori
Sridhar Samudrala wrote: Can't we bind the raw socket to the tap interface instead of the physical interface and allow the bridge config to work. But why use the raw interface instead of tap directly. Let me summarize the discussion so far: Raw sockets Pros: o User specifies a network inte

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-14 Thread Sridhar Samudrala
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 17:50 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 04:19:17PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote: > > Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 09:17:15AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: > > > > Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > >> Looks like Or has abandoned it

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-14 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 04:19:17PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote: > Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 09:17:15AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: > > > Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > >> Looks like Or has abandoned it. I have an updated version which works > > >> with new APIs, etc. Le

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-14 Thread Jamie Lokier
Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 09:17:15AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: > > Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > >> Looks like Or has abandoned it. I have an updated version which works > >> with new APIs, etc. Let me post it and we'll go from there. > >> > >> > >>> I'm generally i

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-14 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 09:17:15AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: > Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: >> Looks like Or has abandoned it. I have an updated version which works >> with new APIs, etc. Let me post it and we'll go from there. >> >> >>> I'm generally inclined to oppose the functionality as I

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-14 Thread Anthony Liguori
Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: Looks like Or has abandoned it. I have an updated version which works with new APIs, etc. Let me post it and we'll go from there. I'm generally inclined to oppose the functionality as I don't think it offers any advantages over the existing backends. I pat

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-14 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 09:21:04AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: > Jens Osterkamp wrote: >> On Wednesday 30 September 2009, Anthony Liguori wrote: >> >> >>> o VMState conversion -- I expect most of the pc target to be completed >>> o qdev conversion -- I hope that we'll get most of the pc targ

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Juan Quintela
Anthony Liguori wrote: > Luiz Capitulino wrote: >> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:54:53 -0500 >> Anthony Liguori wrote: >> >> >>> I think aiming for early to mid-December would give us roughly a 3 >>> month cycle and would align well with some of the Linux >>> distribution cycles. I'd like to limit t

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Amit Shah
On (Wed) Sep 30 2009 [09:47:22], Anthony Liguori wrote: > Amit Shah wrote: >> On (Wed) Sep 30 2009 [08:04:17], Anthony Liguori wrote: >> >>> Amit Shah wrote: >>> On (Tue) Sep 29 2009 [18:54:53], Anthony Liguori wrote: o multiport virtio-console support >>> Assumi

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Anthony Liguori
Amit Shah wrote: On (Wed) Sep 30 2009 [08:04:17], Anthony Liguori wrote: Amit Shah wrote: On (Tue) Sep 29 2009 [18:54:53], Anthony Liguori wrote: o multiport virtio-console support Assuming we can get the kernel drivers straightened out, I think it's certainly reasonable

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Amit Shah
On (Wed) Sep 30 2009 [08:04:17], Anthony Liguori wrote: > Amit Shah wrote: >> On (Tue) Sep 29 2009 [18:54:53], Anthony Liguori wrote: >> o multiport virtio-console support >> > > Assuming we can get the kernel drivers straightened out, I think it's > certainly reasonable for 0.12. The ker

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Anthony Liguori
Amit Shah wrote: On (Tue) Sep 29 2009 [18:54:53], Anthony Liguori wrote: o multiport virtio-console support Assuming we can get the kernel drivers straightened out, I think it's certainly reasonable for 0.12. -- Regards, Anthony Liguori -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the li

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-29 Thread Amit Shah
On (Tue) Sep 29 2009 [18:54:53], Anthony Liguori wrote: > Hi, > > Now that 0.11.0 is behind us, it's time to start thinking about 0.12.0. > > I'd like to do a few things different this time around. I don't think > the -rc process went very well as I don't think we got more testing out > of it.

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-29 Thread Anthony Liguori
Dustin Kirkland wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: Now that 0.11.0 is behind us, it's time to start thinking about 0.12.0. I'd like to do a few things different this time around. I don't think the -rc process went very well as I don't think we got more testing o

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-29 Thread Dustin Kirkland
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: > Now that 0.11.0 is behind us, it's time to start thinking about 0.12.0. > > I'd like to do a few things different this time around.  I don't think the > -rc process went very well as I don't think we got more testing out of it. >  I'd like