Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Need for a solid help content

2015-12-16 Thread Rimas Kudelis
Hi All, +1 on what Michael said about help. I know that traditionally we've had inbuilt help for a long time, and I know that some feel like it's really important, but in my opinion, it's more of an emotional factor and tradition than real need. I especially don't think that maintaining two sets

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Need for a solid help content

2015-12-16 Thread Sophie
Le 16/12/2015 09:25, Rimas Kudelis a écrit : > Hi All, > > +1 on what Michael said about help. I know that traditionally we've had > inbuilt help for a long time, and I know that some feel like it's really > important, but in my opinion, it's more of an emotional factor and > tradition than real

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Need for a solid help content

2015-12-16 Thread Michael Bauer
Sgrìobh Sophie na leanas 16/12/2015 aig 08:56: The help on the wiki is exactly the same as the built in help, it's just an export from what you find on Pootle. Seriously? Yikes... As already said numerous times here, the aim is to have the ability to maintain the help in the wiki and still p

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Need for a solid help content

2015-12-16 Thread Rimas Kudelis
Hi, 2015-12-16 11:05, Michael Bauer wrote: > > > Sgrìobh Sophie na leanas 16/12/2015 aig 08:56: >> The help on the wiki is exactly the same as the built in help, it's >> just an export from what you find on Pootle. > Seriously? Yikes... Michael, look on the bright side: at least it's a single se

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Need for a solid help content

2015-12-16 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16/12/2015 08:25, Rimas Kudelis wrote: > Do they charge differently for questions covered in built-in help, or what? Welcome to the wacky world of Help Desks at support centers. Where the answer is located can have a huge difference on how much

[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Video Tutorial Link in Help

2015-12-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) There are some video tutorials at; http://spoken-tutorial.org/ They cover many different OpenSource programs so if you scroll down the first drop-down you will see quite a few done for LibreOffice. The 2nd drop-down allows people to change to a lot of different languages, although no Europea

[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Help-files: Large-scale 'cosmetic' changes

2015-12-16 Thread Lera
Hi, It is a bad idea to describe the actions of the user in the Help. The Help (as documentation) should describe only the functionality of the program, but it is not something that the user can (should) do. Therefore, the words "you", "your", "user" should be used with extreme caution. Almost

[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Help-files: Large-scale 'cosmetic' changes

2015-12-16 Thread Lera
Hi Jean Weber, В письме от 17 декабря 2015 15:10:40 пользователь Jean Weber написал: > I disagree, and in fact I wrote a book on the topic (Is the Help > Helpful). I will read your book, if I can find it in free access. I am always happy to learn something new. But during about 20 years of devel