[image: Blogger] Justin Delacour<http://www.blogger.com/profile/01343303383195336825> said...
With respect to Greg's twitter comment about Maduro's discourse, I agree that Maduro's discourse of late leaves a lot to be desired and is not conducive to dialogue. It's one thing for the Chavista base to call the opposition fascist. It's another thing for the president of the country to use that kind of label on a regular basis. One hopes that he's simply seeking to establish his authority and show a strong hand in the face of the recent violence. However, if the fascist label becomes a regular part of his discourse, it's hard to see how that's going to serve any political purpose other than to constantly exacerbate tensions between the two major political camps. 10:11 AM [image: Blogger] Cort Greene<http://www.blogger.com/profile/16025289467721109308> said... So lets see, 8*militant Bolivarians* dead, almost a hundred injured, dozens of medical clinics attacked and some burned, PSUV offices attacked and burned, people attacked and homes burned, pots and pans campaign similar to Chile's fascist coup,TV stations attacked, community radio stations attacked, MERCAL food stores vandalized, false accusations of fraud and Capriles unleashing the dogs of war. I think fascist is the correct word. Now some would have called the Reichstag fire, a weenie roast and a coup an adjustment,eh?! On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Cort Greene <cort.gre...@gmail.com> wrote: > http://weeksnotice.blogspot.com/2013/04/recount-vs-audit-in-venezuela.html > > THURSDAY, APRIL 18, 2013 > Recount vs. audit in > Venezuela<http://weeksnotice.blogspot.com/2013/04/recount-vs-audit-in-venezuela.html> > > Here<http://abcnews.go.com/International/t/story/opposition-claims-irregularities-venezuela-vote-18980234> > is > the list of problems that Henrique Capriles has presented to the CNE. > What's interesting is that almost none of them require a ballot by ballot > recount, which he has been told is impossible. A recount suggests that the > counting was done incorrectly, which he's not exactly saying. > > In some cases his concerns would entail an audit, such as checking to see > whether dead people voted. In others it is an investigation into whether > the constitution was violated, such as the charges of intimidation and > harrassment. > > Of course, what Capriles hopes is for the final count to change, but I > don't think that is the same as a recount as generally understood. Either > way, though, it's not clear to me how intimidation could be measured at the > vote level. He may not care, as his goal is to cast sufficient suspicion > over the process itself to undermine Nicolás Maduro's legitimacy. > > Maduro has > said<https://twitter.com/panamericanpost/status/324829262215516161> he'll > accept what the CNE decides, which is at least a shift from saying Capriles > is a fascist golpista with unreasonable demands. There is not a tremendous > amount of horizontal accountability in Venezuela, so he'll be sending > plenty of signals about his preferences. If they reject a full recount > again but accept something smaller, that may well take some of the air out > of the opposition's sails. > > 1 COMMENTS: > Cort Greene <http://www.blogger.com/profile/16025289467721109308>, 9:29 > AM > <http://weeksnotice.blogspot.com/2013/04/recount-vs-audit-in-venezuela.html#comment-1587636954731564870> > > <http://www.blogger.com/delete-comment.g?blogID=21674624&postID=1587636954731564870> > > Per the first popular passed Constitution of 1999 which almost 72% of the > electorate approved, hand checking of all the ballots was replaced with > current method. > > 54% of the ballot boxes have already been chosen randomly,they were opened > & checked against electronic voting and no discrepancies were found. > > Former president Jimmy Carter and the Carter Center, who I dont always > agree with on a political level and I have criticized before for their role > in Venezuela,has called the Venezuelan electoral system the most > transparent in the world and on this point I would certainly agree unlike > the US where we have 5000 electoral commissions, each run by their local > fiefdom and fraud is rampant,just ask people in Florida and Miami big time > or places in Wisconsin to name a few. > > There were international observers and delegations from Europe, UNASUR, > OAS and other countries and none have said there was fraud and the all > countries have recognized the results (except the US) thats including the > right wing governments of Spain, Mexico,Colombia and Chile. > > For those who dont know,everyone who votes is finger printed and it is > scanned into a computer to make sure they are that voter, votes are > tabulated by computer and there is also a paper back up and then then dip > their finger in an ink to show they did vote and if they washed it off > which is hard, the computer would already know they have voted. > > In all polling stations there were witnesses from Capriles, Maduro and the > five other candidates for president campaigns. > -- *A means can be justified only by its end. But the end in its turn needs to be justified. (Also quoted as "The end may justify the means as long as there is something that justifies the end.") 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