Re: Releases

2017-03-10 Thread Graham Leggett
On 10 Mar 2017, at 5:21 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: > At the moment it looks for me as you are against any change. But you don't > tell us any reason for it, You just say no. Is this Apache Way? Not really, > right? That’s too general a statement to respond to. > No one ask to do a full releas

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2017-03-10 Thread Greg Brown
> labs is a place where a > community already exists, to develop new code, but what is missing is not > the basic infrastructure, but the Apache processes. To me, that sounds a lot like a description of the Incubator. Maybe Labs should provide a place to help establish a community, assuming one

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2017-03-10 Thread Danny Angus
Hi John, Yes, I think those are areas we need to address. I particularly like the idea that you have just sparked in me, that labs is a place where a community already exists, to develop new code, but what is missing is not the basic infrastructure, but the Apache processes. It should be a sandbox

Re: Releases

2017-03-10 Thread Wade Chandler
> On Mar 10, 2017, at 10:21, Raphael Bircher wrote: > > Hi Graham > > Am .03.2017, 15:34 Uhr, schrieb Graham Leggett >: > >> On 10 Mar 2017, at 3:48 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: >> I think the purpose of Labs should be this: “Labs is the place where y

Re: Releases

2017-03-10 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi Graham Am .03.2017, 15:34 Uhr, schrieb Graham Leggett : On 10 Mar 2017, at 3:48 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: I think the purpose of Labs should be this: “Labs is the place where you develop software with the goal of introducing that software to the Apache Incubator”. So you *really* beli

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2017-03-10 Thread Scott Aslan
Hello, My name is Scott Aslan and I am a committer on the Apache Nifi project and I am interested in helping put Apache Labs on the map! -- *Scott Aslan = new WebDeveloper(* *{"location": {"city": "Saint Cloud","state": "FL", "zip": "34771"},"contact": {"e

Re: Releases

2017-03-10 Thread Graham Leggett
On 10 Mar 2017, at 3:48 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: >> I think the purpose of Labs should be this: >> >> “Labs is the place where you develop software with the goal of introducing >> that software to the Apache Incubator”. > So you *really* believe that an labs being a incubator-incubator or >

Re: Releases

2017-03-10 Thread Graham Leggett
On 10 Mar 2017, at 3:49 PM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: >> I think the purpose of Labs should be this: >> >> “Labs is the place where you develop software with the goal of introducing >> that software to the Apache Incubator”. >> >> The point at which you enter the Apache Incubator is the point at

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2017-03-10 Thread Otto Fowler
I am asking if anyone has have done it successfully. On March 10, 2017 at 08:33:54, Graham Leggett (minf...@sharp.fm) wrote: On 10 Mar 2017, at 3:29 PM, Otto Fowler wrote: Is there an example of a successful Labs project that DID make it to incubator? How was that set up? What was the feedbac

Re: Releases

2017-03-10 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Graham Leggett wrote: > I think the purpose of Labs should be this: > > “Labs is the place where you develop software with the goal of introducing > that software to the Apache Incubator”. > > The point at which you enter the Apache Incubator is the point at whi

Re: Releases

2017-03-10 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
On 03/10/2017 06:45 AM, Graham Leggett wrote: On 08 Mar 2017, at 7:15 PM, jan iversen wrote: If you compare with GitHub, I can make a release every day if I want (and call it a release), so why limit myself ? You can release every day at Github sure, but you can’t call those releases Apac

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2017-03-10 Thread Otto Fowler
Hi, Is there an example of a successful Labs project that DID make it to incubator? How was that set up? What was the feedback from that project? Information on what worked before and what didn’t would be helpful. On March 10, 2017 at 08:23:25, Graham Leggett (minf...@sharp.fm) wrote: On 07

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2017-03-10 Thread Graham Leggett
On 10 Mar 2017, at 3:29 PM, Otto Fowler wrote: > Is there an example of a successful Labs project that DID make it to > incubator? > How was that set up? What was the feedback from that project? > > Information on what worked before and what didn’t would be helpful. I suspect you’re overthink

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2017-03-10 Thread Greg Brown
Agreed. I've been doing all of my open-source development on GitHub recently, but I was heavily involved with Apache Pivot from 2009 - 2011 or so. I've found that GitHub is great for hosting but terrible for community. It's something I really miss about the ASF. Not sure if Labs is the right veh

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2017-03-10 Thread Graham Leggett
On 07 Mar 2017, at 9:11 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > Saw Danny's note and figured I'd drop a note over here. > > I'm interested in labs, however there's some limitations that concern me. > > 1. Labs projects can't do releases. > 2. Labs projects all write to a single SVN tree structure - no git.

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2017-03-10 Thread Grant M
+1 on this for me as well. I think these limitations will result in limited appeal unfortunately On Fri, 10 Mar 2017, 13:05 John D. Ament, wrote: > Ping? :-) > > On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 2:11 PM John D. Ament > wrote: > > > Hi there > > > > Saw Danny's note and figured I'd drop a note over here.

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2017-03-10 Thread John D. Ament
Ping? :-) On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 2:11 PM John D. Ament wrote: > Hi there > > Saw Danny's note and figured I'd drop a note over here. > > I'm interested in labs, however there's some limitations that concern me. > > 1. Labs projects can't do releases. > 2. Labs projects all write to a single SVN

Re: Releases

2017-03-10 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am .03.2017, 13:22 Uhr, schrieb Greg Brown : I think the purpose of Labs should be this: “Labs is the place where you develop software with the goal of introducing that software to the Apache Incubator”. The point at which you enter the Apache Incubator is the point at which you want to m

Re: Releases

2017-03-10 Thread Atri Sharma
+1 On Mar 10, 2017 5:15 PM, "Graham Leggett" wrote: > On 08 Mar 2017, at 7:15 PM, jan iversen wrote: > > > If you compare with GitHub, I can make a release every day if I want > (and call it a release), so why limit myself ? > > You can release every day at Github sure, but you can’t call those

Re: Releases

2017-03-10 Thread Greg Brown
> I think the purpose of Labs should be this: > > “Labs is the place where you develop software with the goal of introducing > that software to the Apache Incubator”. > > The point at which you enter the Apache Incubator is the point at which you > want to make your first release. +1 ---

Re: Releases

2017-03-10 Thread Danny Angus
+1 On 10 March 2017 at 11:45, Graham Leggett wrote: > On 08 Mar 2017, at 7:15 PM, jan iversen wrote: > >> If you compare with GitHub, I can make a release every day if I want (and >> call it a release), so why limit myself ? > > You can release every day at Github sure, but you can’t call those

Re: Releases

2017-03-10 Thread Dennis Gove
I think yes, but limited to https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/snapshots, only. On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 6:08 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Danny Angus wrote: > > > So my question to those people is this; Is it the lack of the formality > and > > as

Re: Releases

2017-03-10 Thread Graham Leggett
On 08 Mar 2017, at 7:15 PM, jan iversen wrote: > If you compare with GitHub, I can make a release every day if I want (and > call it a release), so why limit myself ? You can release every day at Github sure, but you can’t call those releases Apache releases. To be released by the Apache Softw

Re: Releases

2017-03-10 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Danny Angus wrote: > So my question to those people is this; Is it the lack of the formality and > assurance that is a problem or the lack of a build? Would "pre-release > downloads" be enough? Would have been enough for me. OTOH: With such "pre-releases", the fir