[lace] Tonder/Bucks

2009-01-19 Thread Lorelei Halley
Sue and David OIDFA had a study group going in the late 90s to clarify exactly that point. There is a large class of laces, now called "point ground laces". Virtually every lacemaking country in the 19th century made a version of this kind of lace. Point ground, of course, is CTTT pin. So in 200

[lace] Bucks versus Toender et al

2009-01-19 Thread David in Ballarat
Dear Sue, I am an avid Bucks Point fan but try as I might I cannot detect what the essential difference is between Bucks and Tonder perhaps you could enlighten me. In my experience the main differences are these:- - Toender is worked in the opposite direction from Bucks (but I don't) - Toender

[lace] threads

2009-01-19 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
The beauty of Polycotton thread is that is holds its shape, and never creases!! The bad part is that it is springy and wants to do it's own thing, - not what I want it to do! The half-hitch does not always stay done up for one thing. However, I find lace made from a good polycotton is useful, - e

Re: [lace] Victorian Farm now Scottish jackets

2009-01-19 Thread Rochelle Sutherland
There are a number of different styles of Scottish jacket. The most common is a Prince Charlie, which is very like a normal dinner jacket, but shorter. It's worn with a vest and bow tie and is always black. The other types are single and double breasted variations with or without flaps at the hem

[lace] Italian translation, please?

2009-01-19 Thread Tamara P Duvall
Gentle Spiders, In the book I'm currently reading (The Dress of the Venetians, 1495-1525; by Stella Mary Newton), among the many untranslated Italian (and/or Venetian) words/phrases/sentences there's one, which I'd really, really would like to know the *exact* meaning of. It's: Provedadori s

[lace] floral torchon

2009-01-19 Thread Lorelei Halley
Dona I realize this answer is very late relative to your inquiry. I have seen some individual floral torchon patterns designed by Geraldine Stott and they are very pretty. I have not seen the whole book, but based on the individual ones, I'd say use hers. She is a very good designer with clear d

[lace] chemical lace

2009-01-19 Thread Lorelei Halley
Sue Chemical lace is a machine made lace based on embroidery. the base fabric is some kind of synthetic which can be easily dissolved with acid or some other chemical solution. The machine does cotton thread embroidery upon the synthetic fabric. The embroidery pattern is designed in such a way t

RE: [lace] Tamara's Toss

2009-01-19 Thread Sue
Thanks for update David, I have been wondering whether your Tonder piece was finished yet, another question as I hope to start making some myself shortly, I am an avid Bucks Point fan but try as I might I cannot detect what the essential difference is between Bucks and Tonder perhaps you could enli

[lace] Lace Guild website update

2009-01-19 Thread Jean Leader
We've just added a new selection of items from the Lace Guild's Collection to the Lace Gallery which you can access from the Guild page - url below. You'll also find some new items on the Errata page (accessed from Publications). Thank you to Jean Nathan for recently pointing out an error

Re: [lace] Thread Identification

2009-01-19 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On Jan 19, 2009, at 10:51, laceandb...@aol.com wrote: Most of the threads on large plastic cones are industrial threads so although that doesn't exclude cotton and linen, The large (1000m) cones of both Bouc and Fresia linen had been wound on plastic cones for years (though I don't know for

Re: [lace] Cleaning Lace/Other - Long

2009-01-19 Thread Jeriames
Per Susan: "I am sure you all here have a wealth of info on the best ways to clean lace or keep it white." Oh! My! Once again, the clean laces in my archival storage boxes are levitating! This is for the new members of Arachne. Lace should not be compared with clothing washed with h

Re: [lace] Thread Identification

2009-01-19 Thread Francis Busschaert
hi hallo, an other small test is fire just burn a bit and smell if it smells like paper it will be cotton or linnen or hemp (could be hemp if you say it is that old, hemp was sometimes trangly more available then linnen) then you do the Brenda magnifying test for making the difference to long

Re: [lace] bookmarks for Obama

2009-01-19 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Bev, the text says that they will be made not that they are finished. Sorry , we have still to wait. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com

Re: [lace] bookmarks for Obama

2009-01-19 Thread bev walker
They are made, perhaps they aren't uploaded yet. But they must be somewhere, maybe at the Museum site itself. I'll try to find them to share the link, because they are really beautiful. On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Margot Walker wrote: > I think there are no photos because the press release

[lace] bookmarks for Obama

2009-01-19 Thread Margot Walker
I think there are no photos because the press release says the the museum "will" be making the bookmarks. In other words, they aren't made yet. On 19 Jan 2009, at 14:43, bev walker wrote: Hi all I have just received a press release from Musée de Retournac about the 12 bookmarks sent wit

[lace] bookmarks for Obama

2009-01-19 Thread bev walker
Hi all I have just received a press release from Musée de Retournac about the 12 bookmarks sent with 12 books from la Ville Retournac in France to the US Presidential Inauguration. There are two lovely photos, one of a bookmark in progress, and the other of several of the beautiful bookmarks, on a

Re: [lace] Victorian Farm was lace-digest V2008 #276

2009-01-19 Thread Sue
We are going out to a Burns night supper on saturday for my 60th birthday, (did I just admit to that, LOL). My husband has a kilt I made to wear at our living history camps and usually wears a red soldiers coat from the period 1800's. He has socks/hose, sparren but no modern jacket, so we have

RE: [lace] Victorian Farm was lace-digest V2008 #276

2009-01-19 Thread Karen Zammit Manduca
How would you change a suit jacket into a Scottish one? What is so different? Just interested. Karen in Malta -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Sue Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 3:26 PM To: Brenda Paternoster Cc: Arachne Subject:

Re: [lace] Thread Identification

2009-01-19 Thread Laceandbits
Delores, Two other factors can make thread stiff; one is the amount of twist. There was a cotton thread called Unity that was around when I started making lace (about 30 years ago) which was *the thread* for Bucks as it was highly twisted and the lace made with it was *crisp*. Some threads are

Re: [lace] Thread Identification

2009-01-19 Thread Delores Miller
Thank you Brenda, There is no label. The 'cone' is a plastic cyclinder and is not smooth. It is about 5 inches in diameter and the thread is ecru. It was purchased from a discount yarn shop in the sixties. I have used it to make samples of edgings when I first started lace making in the ni

Re: [lace] Tamara's Toss

2009-01-19 Thread Sister Claire
David, your work is so beautiful... I'll never be in your class but it is inspiring, nonetheless! Sr. Claire On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 4:23 PM, David in Ballarat wrote: > Dear Friends, > Some of you may recall that large piece of Toender lace I've been working > on. Well this week I finally got bac

Re: [lace] Victorian Farm was lace-digest V2008 #276

2009-01-19 Thread Sue
I see what you mean about being recognisable, Thank you for you explanation and for the link which I found very interesting. I have a lace butterfly bought in Bruge in the 1980s which I wonder if its done in this way. When I bought it I bought it as a pretty brooch of lace that I liked, but now

[lace] Tamara's Toss

2009-01-19 Thread David in Ballarat
Dear Friends, Some of you may recall that large piece of Toender lace I've been working on. Well this week I finally got back to it after about 18 months doing other things! I've added a couple more inches this week and am half way through turning the last of the 4 corners. Whilst making one

Re: [lace] Victorian Farm was lace-digest V2008 #276

2009-01-19 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Sue Chemical lace is cotton embroidery on acetate fabric, then the whole lot is steeped in acetone or something similar to dissolve away the acetate leaving only the embroidery. Discovered in the 1880s I think so Victorian but slightly late for the 1850s setting of the TV programme.

Fw: [lace] Victorian Farm was lace-digest V2008 #276

2009-01-19 Thread Sue
Brenda, you may have seen this coming, but I now have to ask what chemical lace is please? Thank you for such great info on the rest of the email, brilliant. I think that they filming would have been done at different points and the producer showing what they showed in the time allotted to each

Re: [lace] Thread Identification

2009-01-19 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Delores I have a 1950s book "The Identification of Textile Fibres" which goes into great detail about microscopic and chemical tests to distinguish one fibre from another, but unless you have your own laboratory to hand If you are just trying to decide between linen and cotton the

[lace] Thank you kind people.

2009-01-19 Thread Brian Lemin
Today I was so excited to get a postcard with superb photos of Antique Downton bobbins. One showed clearly that the decorators of East Devon bobbins (Honiton) used the same decorator. To me, that is exciting! Please continue with your generous donations of pictures of antique bobbins. I prob