Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-24 Thread Cynce Williams
#x27;Neill, Chicago Area > - Original Message - > > From: "Marianne Gallant" > To: "lace" > Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 2:16:41 PM > Subject: Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers > > I think that may be true for a lot of people. Most

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-24 Thread sueat
From what I have seen in our local area there are various ages of lacemakers, some learning, some very skilled and some of the older ladies who will natural stop being able to work it due to illnesses, eyesight conditions etc but still passing on a love of the crafts around lacemaking and fiber

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-24 Thread Catherine Barley
I'm inclined to agree with Marianne as our lace takes many, many hours to produce and people just wouldn't pay a reasonable price, even based on the minimum hourly wage recognised here in the UK! I occasionally have my car cleaned whilst shopping in my local M & S store and it costs me £7.00p a

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-24 Thread Vivienne Walton
I totally agree. I have perhaps or at least one of the largest number of Torchon lace patters that I sell at Biggins. After you have made your design and the lace its self so you know it has no problems, you have an item to sell for perpetuity. To make lace and to even charge 50p per hour the la

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-23 Thread Bespokethreadsandyarns
When non fiber artists ask about cost of a handmade item and I quote how many hours of work go into it, I too hear them balk at the cost. I throw it back on them and ask how much they feel they should be paid for X amount of hours of work. Usually gets them to think how much their time is worth

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-23 Thread Helene Ulrich
I'm with Marianne and Clay. Many years ago I made one of Betty Lou Braun's Rose Brier Bears as a gift. A lady I worked with asked me to make one for her. When I told her it took me 48 hours to make (I had tracked my time) and even at less than minimum wage it would cost her over $100 because of

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-23 Thread Clay Blackwell
I totally agree! Sent from my iPad > On Jul 23, 2016, at 6:42 PM, Marianne Gallant wrote: > > I think this discussion is going in the wrong direction. We don't need > young 'artists' to continue the art of lacemaking. If you come right > down to it, it is not really an 'art form' like a pain

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-23 Thread Marianne Gallant
I think this discussion is going in the wrong direction. We don't need young 'artists' to continue the art of lacemaking. If you come right down to it, it is not really an 'art form' like a painting you put on a wall. It never really was, it was mainly something to decorate clothing or househo

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-23 Thread d2oneill
Robin Lewis' rope torchon lace installation in the TVA building was well-received at the time... >From Doris O'Neill, Chicago Area - Original Message - From: "Marianne Gallant" To: "lace" Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 2:16:41 PM Subject: Re: [lace

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-23 Thread Marianne Gallant
I think that may be true for a lot of people. Most of the modern 'art' I don't care for, it is just too far out there. Like the mention earlier of a guy who had been watching a demo of bobbin lace and then enthusiastically talked about using rope.fine, yes you can make 'lace' with anything,

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-23 Thread Malvary Cole
Or perhaps we don't buy the works because we just don't like them. We can appreciate the work that has gone in to them but wouldn't want them around all the time Just my 2 cents worth. Malvary in Ottawa Devon wrote: But, do any of us buy great works by current lace artists such as Pierre F

[lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-23 Thread Devon Thein
Many good suggestions have been proffered for increasing the visibility of lace. But, here in NY, what I am observing is that people who know how to make lace, and are fiber artists are turning away from making lace art because there is no market for it. We are, to use one of my husband's expressio

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-22 Thread Amanda Babcock Furrow
Babcock Furrow > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 11:30 PM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers > > I had already had some thoughts on this and I had noticed recently that the > thriving knitting groups use Meetup.com to get together - that seems to

[lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-22 Thread Devon Thein
Sorry again. I realized I had sent this via the AOL account, not the gmail account, so I am resending it. Good idea, Jeri. In fact, when I attended the Grand Reveal for the Plymouth Jacket that I worked on they handed me such a press release which I sent to my local paper, largely in the spirit of

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-22 Thread Tregellas Family
And Joan Sutherland, our Australian soprano, used to work on her cross stitch while waiting in her dressing room. Cheers, Shirley T - who has quite a few cross stitch UFOs On 23-Jul-16 3:12 AM, Vivienne Walton wrote: I do know Julia Roberts knits. Some very fine knitting. I have seen a pict

[lace] Supporting Young Lacemakers, Publicity, Networking

2016-07-22 Thread Jeriames
Response to correspondence generated by Devon Thein in which she refers to supporting young lace artists and CV's (Curriculum Vitae - or, Resumes). We need to make it easier for artists to find us! In the past 20 years, I have shared with Arachne members much about public relations, pub

RE: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-22 Thread Lorelei Halley
, 2016 11:30 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers I had already had some thoughts on this and I had noticed recently that the thriving knitting groups use Meetup.com to get together - that seems to be where the 20 and 30-something crowd look for events. I did think

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-22 Thread Sue Babbs
Our local library now has a studio with all sorts of craft equipment for everyone to use (just need to sign a liability waiver). The library says: "The Studio features the latest technology and equipment, such as 3D printers, Adobe Creative Cloud software and a laser engraver, as well as clas

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-22 Thread Adele Shaak
Here in Vancouver for the past decade I have noticed, especially among younger people, a strong and growing interest in ‘slow manufacturing’ - ie, making things from scratch. The difference with my generation, I think, is that they’re really intrigued with making their own designs and projects,

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-22 Thread Marianne Gallant
It may be that the young people now think different, but 15 years ago, when I had my yarnshop, that is all the young people talked about, how one movie star or another had been seen knitting in between 'takes'. That made several of them go to youtube to learn to knit. Oh, and don't think they'

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-22 Thread Vivienne Walton
I do know Julia Roberts knits. Some very fine knitting. I have seen a picture of a shawl she knitted. Vivienne > On 22 Jul 2016, at 18:29, Devon Thein wrote: > > I guess there must be some celebrities who do knitting or crocheting since > someone said there was. The last one I recall was Rosie

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-22 Thread Devon Thein
I guess there must be some celebrities who do knitting or crocheting since someone said there was. The last one I recall was Rosie Grier who gained some notoriety for needle point. .I have to say I am so far from even knowing who celebrities are these days that it is embarrassing. But, my limited o

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-22 Thread Jane Partridge
I think it's a mix of several reasons - doing crafts because celebrities are, because their peers are, or because they need to learn a technique for some aspect of their course. Celebrities have their place - Una Stubbs (actress) more or less started a knitting craze some years back. In the la

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers/now knitting and crochet

2016-07-22 Thread sueat
There has been a lot of knit and natter groups grow up in the UK, charity pieces and then the media coverage has helped the growth of knitting and crochet. Of course You Tube helps everyone. Sue T Dorset UK I would also take issue with the idea that knitting and crochet are popular because cel

[lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-22 Thread Devon Thein
I would also take issue with the idea that knitting and crochet are popular because celebrities are doing them. My perspective, of course, is perhaps very limited because I live near NY. But, from what I have observed millennials are making things as a form of self-actualization. They are finding v

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-22 Thread Catherine Barley
atherine Barley Needlelace www.catherinebarley.com Original message---- Devon Thein wrote: Subject : [lace] Supporting young lacemakers One thing that is very interesting about the young millennial artists is that, since art, not motherhood, is their primary occupation, they really do produ

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-21 Thread Beth Harpell
That is a FANTASTIC IDEA I use Meetup.com myself for a lot to f interest groups like oil painting sit & sips, historic architecture lectures, knitting, etc., but I had never thought about using it for this purpose mainly because I'm already connected with the "lace ladies", so it would be a

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-21 Thread Amanda Babcock Furrow
I had already had some thoughts on this and I had noticed recently that the thriving knitting groups use Meetup.com to get together - that seems to be where the 20 and 30-something crowd look for events. I did think of tatting and Teneriffe as gateway interests, if you will, and I was thinking th

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-21 Thread Beth Harpell
I think getting the word out about lacemaking is the main thing. I'm at the IOLI convention and specifically learned to tat and bought a book on how to make Teneriffe lace just so I can (in my own small way) make lacemaking more visible to others and more portable for myself. I want to be able

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-21 Thread Marianne Gallant
I think the main reason that millennials are so interested in knitting and crochet is because celebrities have been seen to do these crafts while waiting around. The main thing is that it is so portable. Bobbin lace is not really portable, so it makes it more difficult to take it in your purse t

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-21 Thread dagmar . beckel
Devon, Thank you for putting those thoughts into such compelling words and what a great way to stimulate the artist and lacemaking community. I'm especially fond of your point about creating the market demand even if it maybe somewhat artificial in the beginning. I believe that is essential to

[lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-21 Thread Devon Thein
Catherine Barley writes: "Sadly so many mums don't have the luxury of staying at home to bring up their families these days, so miss out on the opportunity of a little 'me' time once they are old enough to go to school, which gave those of us of a similar age, the opportunity to learn a craft such