Re: [lace] mathematicians, IT engineers and lacemaking

2018-05-20 Thread Amy Mills
I am a classically trained musician (guitar, trumpet, flute, other misc.) so I read music very well. I'm still very much new to lacemaking, but to make a relatively simple analogy - the pattern could easily be considered a score, and the various stitches required to make the various parts of the

Re: [lace] mathematicians, IT engineers and lacemaking

2018-05-20 Thread Sharon Ghamari-Tabrizi
I will raise my hand about music-making and needlework. I play Bach on a string instrument, and to my mind, the patterns that make sense when sight-reading musical counterpoint make the same intuitive rhythms in my mind (internal ear? mind's eye?) as the growing symmetries and dissonances of lace

RE: [lace] mathematicians, IT engineers and lacemaking

2018-05-20 Thread David C Collyer
G'day Nancy, It would be interesting to do a survey of the bobbin-lacemaking members of IOLI about area of education, highest degree obtained and when, career field, types of bobbin lace specialized in, maybe things like primarily self-taught or not, others?, and compare the stats from that to

Re: [lace] mathematicians, IT engineers and lacemaking

2018-05-19 Thread robinlace
I'm not 100 percent convinced of a math/engineering link with bobbin lace. First of all, I noticed years ago a lot of other sciences in lacemaking--biology (my field), chemistry, psychology, etc. Also science fiction fanatics who never went into science (or math, computers, etc.). I think

Re: [lace] mathematicians, IT engineers and lacemaking

2018-05-19 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Elena, It would be interesting to do a survey of the bobbin-lacemaking members of IOLI about area of education, highest degree obtained and when, career field, types of bobbin lace specialized in, maybe things like primarily self-taught or not, others?, and compare the stats from that to stats

Re: [lace] mathematicians, IT engineers and lacemaking

2018-05-19 Thread Elena Kanagy-Loux
Hello all, The seemingly natural attraction of those in the STEM field to lacemaking has fascinated me for some time. I remember attending Ithaca Lace Day a couple of years ago and after repeatedly hearing that so-and-so was a mathematician or scientist, and I was intrigued by the connection. My

Re: [lace] mathematicians, IT engineers and lacemaking

2018-05-19 Thread N.A. Neff
A few observations: First there were indeed computer engineers who were lacemakers in the 1980s. I started programming in the mid-1960s (well before PCs or Macs or the Internet), and I was mesmerized by making bobbin lace from the first time I saw it done in the mid-1980s. For the first several

Re: [lace] mathematicians, IT engineers and lacemaking

2018-05-19 Thread Adele Shaak
It seems to me that lacemaking provides many things to many people. Small children can learn simple Torchon patterns quite easily. Adults with no particular math skills may make lace their whole lives without ever finding a need to go dig out their trig tables (yes, I know that dates me, but

Re: [lace] mathematicians, IT engineers and lacemaking

2018-05-19 Thread Kathleen Harris
Marjory Carter, who I mentioned as my Bucks point tutor, had been a maths teacher in a grammar school, until she retired. She learned her lace from a lady with whom she lodged when she was training as a teacher. I started to take courses with her in 1980, so I guess she would have retired in

[lace] mathematicians, IT engineers and lacemaking

2018-05-19 Thread Anita Hansen
I have heard this mentioned before too that many lacemakers are in these fields. I, myself, have a Mathmatics degree and worked as a software engineer for 20+ years. However, I really don’t think my math skills have anything to do with my ability to make lace. I sorely lack in artistic skills

[lace] mathematicians, IT engineers and lacemaking

2018-05-19 Thread Sharon Ghamari-Tabrizi
Friends Both Devon and Alex Stillwell have pointed out to me that some of the finest lacemakers are mathematicians and computer engineers. It makes intuitive sense. I have a math learning disability so I wouldn't be able to follow more than superficially, but allowing for that, does anyone have