Re: [Launchpad-dev] Launchpad critical bugs fall to 100

2013-03-13 Thread Gary Poster
On 03/13/2013 11:13 AM, Jeroen Vermeulen wrote: On 03/13/2013 09:37 PM, Curtis Hovey wrote: All Hail William and Steve for bringing Lp to its lowest number of oopses and timeouts in 6 years. I never thought I'd see the day. Thanks, guys, and congratuliations! +1 Gary

[Launchpad-dev] Juju GUI/Yellow squad weekly topics: December 14

2012-12-16 Thread Gary Poster
http://codesinger.blogspot.com/2012/12/yellow-squad-weekly-topics-december-14.html We are working on the Juju GUI. IRC nicks indicate the person who raised the issue. • Makyo: the GUI can break the charm • bcsaller: Write user stories as functional tests: improv plus Selenium • bcsaller: card

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Parallel testing is live

2012-09-21 Thread Gary Poster
On 09/21/2012 03:54 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 2:41 AM, William Grant william.gr...@canonical.com wrote: Hi, WebOps have today finished setting up parallel testing in buildbot. buildbot-poll has been updated to know about the new builders, and I've confirmed that

[Launchpad-dev] important for maintenance squads: Hand-off, care and feeding of parallel testing

2012-08-31 Thread Gary Poster
Hi all. Unfortunately, IS priorities haven't aligned to get parallel testing deployed yet. Our squad has been assigned to move on to our next project, starting Monday of next week. We have an important deadline to reach for our next project, and will need to focus on that. It will fall to

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Release of lpsetup

2012-08-28 Thread Gary Poster
On 08/27/2012 04:55 PM, Brad Crittenden wrote: Hi, As a by-product of the work the Yellow Squad has been doing to parallelize the Launchpad test suite, we've created a tool called 'lpsetup' that replaces the rocketfuel-setup scripts but with lots of new functionality. You can use lpsetup to

[Launchpad-dev] Yellow Squad Weekly Retrospective: August 17

2012-08-20 Thread Gary Poster
Project report (Laura, this is the best link to use, thank you :-) ): http://codesinger.blogspot.com/2012/08/yellow-squad-weekly-project-report_17.html Topics: http://codesinger.blogspot.com/2012/08/yellow-squad-weekly-topics-august-17.html Project report summary: * We're still hiring for

[Launchpad-dev] Yellow retrospective meeting notes: August 10

2012-08-15 Thread Gary Poster
Project report http://codesinger.blogspot.com/2012/08/yellow-squad-weekly-project-report.html Topics http://codesinger.blogspot.com/2012/08/yellow-squad-weekly-topics-august-10.html (no tricks section this week) Project report Summary: * A vacation kept one weekly report from being written,

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Francesco Banconi graduates to full reviewer

2012-08-13 Thread Gary Poster
Yay!! Congratulations, Francesco; and thank you very much, Raphaël. Gary On Aug 13, 2012, at 11:00 AM, Raphaël Badin raphael.ba...@canonical.com wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to announce that Francesco frankban Banconi is now a graduated reviewer. From now on, he will be the reviewer on duty

[Launchpad-dev] Yellow weekly retrospective minutes: July 20

2012-07-25 Thread Gary Poster
(Sorry for being late to get the mail out!) = Project Report = http://codesinger.blogspot.com/2012/07/yellow-squad-weekly-project-report-july_20.html Summary: * This was gmb's last week with us. Farewell from Yellow squad, and best wishes for leading Green squad! * We're still hiring for

[Launchpad-dev] Yellow weekly retrospective minutes: July 13

2012-07-16 Thread Gary Poster
= Project Report = http://codesinger.blogspot.com/2012/07/yellow-squad-weekly-project-report-july_13.html Summary: * Parallel tests are running very well this week, with 37 successful runs in a row so far...even though we haven't changed anything. * The parallel testing machines in the data

[Launchpad-dev] Yellow squad weekly retrospective meeting minutes: June 6

2012-07-10 Thread Gary Poster
I'm a bit behind on this, but here it is finally. This week I divided them up into three posts. I'm just going to summarize and link them here, rather than copying them into a difficult to read and exceptionally long email. = Project status = Summary: We made some good progress, but this week

[Launchpad-dev] Yellow squad weekly retrospective meeting minutes: June 29

2012-07-02 Thread Gary Poster
On blog: http://codesinger.blogspot.com/2012/07/yellow-squad-weekly-retrospective.html Headlines Project report (now divided into status and goals sections) Tricks * gary_poster: how can code determine if it is being run within an LXC container? * benji: use -s flag to combine nosetests and

[Launchpad-dev] Yellow Squad Weekly Retrospective Minutes: June 22

2012-06-22 Thread Gary Poster
Headlines Project plan Action Items New tricks * gary_poster: when you think of something to share for the weekly retrospective call, why not write it on the wiki page * gary_poster: When starting a new project, look at our checklist and jml's * gary_poster: When apt-get fails... * benji: bzr

[Launchpad-dev] Issues with codebrowse

2012-06-20 Thread Gary Poster
Hi John and all. The webops folks alerted us of a codebrowse problem today. Things seem to have settled down so they have filed a bug rather than started an incident, but if things get worse they will yell for help...and meanwhile, we have something to investigate.

[Launchpad-dev] 2 small LEPS: Launchpad developer Juju charm juju-based parallelized ec2 land command

2012-06-19 Thread Gary Poster
Hi all. I have two small unofficial LEPs ready for comments. We might be able to get to them. I hope we will. :-) https://dev.launchpad.net/LEP/LaunchpadJujuCharmForDevs Make a Juju charm that can support casual/quick Launchpad development and one-off parallel testing (as opposed to automatic

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Yellow squad checklist thoughts

2012-06-18 Thread Gary Poster
On 06/18/2012 08:23 AM, Jonathan Lange wrote: On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Gary Poster gary.pos...@canonical.com wrote: Hi Jono. I hope the retrospective goes well. We'd be very happy to hear your ideas on changes and improvements and experiments. (I still need to write up today's

[Launchpad-dev] Yellow squad retrospective minutes: June 15

2012-06-18 Thread Gary Poster
Pretty version http://codesinger.blogspot.com/2012/06/yellow-squad-weekly-retrospective_18.html Headlines Attendance Project plan Action items New tricks gmb: beware: zope.testing will occasionally swallow ImportErrors benji: beware: be careful when powering off lxc containers benji:

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Yellow squad checklist thoughts

2012-06-15 Thread Gary Poster
Hi Jono. I hope the retrospective goes well. We'd be very happy to hear your ideas on changes and improvements and experiments. (I still need to write up today's retrospective but I'm out of time ATM.) I'll update the lists as you suggest. I'm not sure yet exactly how I'll integrate the Covey

[Launchpad-dev] Parallel testing status update

2012-06-13 Thread Gary Poster
Pretty version: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1RNYn2XLJ9FTC7kmM0-5t_XyAzRSj2-ne_T-RqemP0bo/edit# Parallel test project Status update for June 13, 2012 Overview In our last report, we had regressed to no passing (green) test runs. We are back to reasonably good statistics

[Launchpad-dev] Yellow retrospective meeting notes: June 8

2012-06-08 Thread Gary Poster
Headlines New tricks: frankban: the fixtures test fixture package. benji: debugging output streams gary_poster: killing lots of lxc ephemerals is annoying, but I have a band-aid gmb gary_poster: bisect and conquer for test isolation problems benji: escaping from the lxc login

Re: [Launchpad-dev] LEP: Improve our Launchpad setup scripts

2012-06-07 Thread Gary Poster
Hi all. I'm telling Francesco that we've given this LEP time enough to cook, and encouraging him to proceed. Thanks! Gary On 05/31/2012 02:32 PM, Gary Poster wrote: On 05/21/2012 03:09 PM, Francesco Banconi wrote: Hi all, I've written a LEP draft about Launchpad setup scripts improvement

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Yellow retrospective meeting notes 2012-06-01

2012-06-06 Thread Gary Poster
As an experiment, I'll do what Elliot suggested. I'll blog on my pre-existing personal blog (e.g. http://codesinger.blogspot.com/2012/06/yellow-squad-weekly-retrospective.html). This is aggregated into http://voices.canonical.com/ . I'll send out emails with headlines at the top, link, and the

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Yellow retrospective meeting notes 2012-06-01

2012-06-04 Thread Gary Poster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/04/2012 09:37 AM, Aaron Bentley wrote: On 12-06-01 01:54 PM, Gary Poster wrote: (We then discussed lightweight branches and colocated branches to make sure everyone knew what they were and how to use them.) What do you mean by lightweight

[Launchpad-dev] Please be very lenient in your test timeouts--or don't write them!

2012-06-04 Thread Gary Poster
Summary: * If you are writing code in a test to wait for something to happen in wall-clock time... * make sure that you are only doing this in setup or teardown, to prevent a permanent hang in the test suite; and * make sure that you provide a really generous amount of time--say, 10 or

[Launchpad-dev] Yellow retrospective meeting notes 2012-06-01

2012-06-01 Thread Gary Poster
= Preamble = Is anybody out there? If you read this email, please give us feedback on how we could make our communication better. We've gotten some positive feedback on these emails, but also some hints that they are falling into the tl;dr trap for some or most people. Do you have some ideas

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Yellow retrospective meeting notes 2012-06-01

2012-06-01 Thread Gary Poster
On 06/01/2012 02:25 PM, Elliot Murphy wrote: Hi! On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Gary Poster gary.pos...@canonical.com wrote: If you read this email, please give us feedback on how we could make our communication better. We've gotten some positive feedback on these emails, but also some

Re: [Launchpad-dev] LEP: Improve our Launchpad setup scripts

2012-05-31 Thread Gary Poster
On 05/21/2012 03:09 PM, Francesco Banconi wrote: Hi all, I've written a LEP draft about Launchpad setup scripts improvement. The Yellow squad, as you already know, is working on the parallel tests project, which uses https://launchpad.net/lpsetup as part of its process to create the

Re: [Launchpad-dev] LEP: Improve our Launchpad setup scripts

2012-05-31 Thread Gary Poster
On 05/31/2012 05:40 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Gary Poster gary.pos...@canonical.com wrote: We put his thoughts, which we have largely incorporated; and some implementation notes on separate pages, so the Thoughts? section is largely blank once again. Thoughts

[Launchpad-dev] Yellow biweekly project status: parallel testing

2012-05-30 Thread Gary Poster
Also readable in google docs: https://docs.google.com/document/d/12zW9D79nxHrY0KCjfETpS6RLrjcOo95MygenBfClX04/edit Parallel test project Status update for May 30, 2012 Overview As warned by the Yellow retrospective meeting minutes from this past Friday, this was a tough couple of weeks for the

[Launchpad-dev] Yellow Squad retrospective minutes May 25

2012-05-25 Thread Gary Poster
= Attendance = The gang's all here: bac, benji, frankban, gmb, gary_poster = Project plan = - We have two 24 core machines coming, one each for devel and dbdevel: yay - We have not tested regularly with that many cores: boo. We need to start testing regularly with 32 core EC2 machines when we

Re: [Launchpad-dev] LEP: Improve our Launchpad setup scripts

2012-05-22 Thread Gary Poster
On 05/21/2012 03:09 PM, Francesco Banconi wrote: Hi all, I've written a LEP draft about Launchpad setup scripts improvement. The Yellow squad, as you already know, is working on the parallel tests project, which uses https://launchpad.net/lpsetup as part of its process to create the

Re: [Launchpad-dev] LEP: Improve our Launchpad setup scripts

2012-05-21 Thread Gary Poster
On 05/21/2012 03:09 PM, Francesco Banconi wrote: Hi all, I've written a LEP draft about Launchpad setup scripts improvement. The Yellow squad, as you already know, is working on the parallel tests project, which uses https://launchpad.net/lpsetup as part of its process to create the

Re: [Launchpad-dev] LEP: Improve our Launchpad setup scripts

2012-05-21 Thread Gary Poster
On 05/21/2012 10:03 PM, Timothy Chavez wrote: On 05/21/2012 02:09 PM, Francesco Banconi wrote: Hi all, I've written a LEP draft about Launchpad setup scripts improvement. The Yellow squad, as you already know, is working on the parallel tests project, which uses https://launchpad.net/lpsetup

[Launchpad-dev] Yellow weekly retrospective meeting notes 2012-05-18

2012-05-18 Thread Gary Poster
= Attendance = benji, gmb, gary_poster apologies from frankban and bac, though frankban pre-supplied some notes for the meeting. = Project plan review = * fewer, more exciting test failures * we need to explore the new cohosting plans in order to inform the purchasing plans = Tricks =

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Yellow weekly retrospective meeting notes 2012-05-18

2012-05-18 Thread Gary Poster
On 05/18/2012 10:32 AM, Gary Poster wrote: One possible solution might be a week timer for kanban cards that are waiting on other people--if a card doesn’t move, ping in some way. gary_poster requested this kind of feature from leankitkanban a few weeks ago and got no reply. Actually

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Devs switch to PG 9.1

2012-05-08 Thread Gary Poster
On 05/08/2012 02:11 AM, Stuart Bishop wrote: On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:07 AM, Gary Poster gary.pos...@canonical.com wrote: Stuart, thank you for the alert. When is production scheduled to switch to 9.1? It isn't scheduled yet. Everything is ready to go, but we are just waiting on everyone

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Devs switch to PG 9.1

2012-05-06 Thread Gary Poster
On 05/06/2012 06:16 AM, Stuart Bishop wrote: Hi. Devs will need to switch over to PostgreSQL 9.1 - our first landing is happening with sampledata generated from PG 9.1. As usual, sampledata diffs are huge when generated by different PostgreSQL versions so to avoid unnecessary huge commits

[Launchpad-dev] Yellow retrospective meeting minutes 2012-05-04

2012-05-04 Thread Gary Poster
= Attendance = Brad, Benji, Gary (Francesco swap day, Graham Product Summit/UDS) = Project status = Francis approved: when we get a 90% rate of green test runs, we will start work on stretch goals. The stretch goal will get a WIP limit of two cards, and we will continue to work on the test

[Launchpad-dev] Watch some fun with parallel tests

2012-05-01 Thread Gary Poster
If you read this message in the next 8 hours or so, you might have fun going to http://ec2-107-22-105-209.compute-1.amazonaws.com:8010/waterfall and seeing the parallel tests run on a juju-ified ec2 buildbot set up. Robert thought all the devs might get a kick out of seeing it, so here it

[Launchpad-dev] 2012-04-27 Yellow weekly retrospective minutes

2012-04-27 Thread Gary Poster
= Attendance = full house (bac, benji, frankban, gmb, gary_poster) = Project plan = no change. Discussed availability: * Benji is out Mon Tues of next week, and Wed-Fri of following week * Francesco is out Tuesday and Wednesday of next week * Graham is unavailable for all practical

[Launchpad-dev] [Bug 990191] Re: Cannot complete rocketfuel-setup in Precise

2012-04-27 Thread Gary Poster
Thank you for filing this bug. While we do want Launchpad to run on Precise, and this bug is good to have to track that desire, you might be interested in running Launchpad in LXC (https://dev.launchpad.net/Running/LXC) which several LP developers use on Precise; or using a full-fledged Lucid VM

[Launchpad-dev] 2012-04-20 Yellow retrospective meeting minutes

2012-04-20 Thread Gary Poster
Attending: benji, frankban, gmb, gary_poster Apologies: bac = Project plan = We're waiting on IS fixing bugs. We all knew this. = Tricks learned = benji: re-remembered apt-get build-dep: get all build dependencies. Nice for Python packages. Worked well to get dependencies for

[Launchpad-dev] Yellow retrospective meeting minutes: we forgot to have the meeting :-P

2012-04-13 Thread Gary Poster
It's Friday! Oops. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-dev Post to : launchpad-dev@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-dev More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Launchpad-dev] memcache errors in ec2 and buildbot -- newer python-memcached to blame?

2012-04-09 Thread Gary Poster
On 04/06/12 03:40, Stuart Bishop wrote: On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 3:51 AM, Gary Postergary.pos...@canonical.com wrote: I'm seeing these pretty consistently on parallel test runs. It seems to affect both test environments. I filed bug 974632. Have we considered dropping Memcached? Last I

Re: [Launchpad-dev] memcache errors in ec2 and buildbot -- newer python-memcached to blame?

2012-04-09 Thread Gary Poster
On 04/09/12 10:20, Deryck Hodge wrote: On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Gary Postergary.pos...@canonical.com wrote: On 04/06/12 03:40, Stuart Bishop wrote: On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 3:51 AM, Gary Postergary.pos...@canonical.com wrote: I'm seeing these pretty consistently on parallel test

[Launchpad-dev] Yellow weekly retrospective meeting minutes 2012-04-05

2012-04-05 Thread Gary Poster
= Meta = * Changed name of this meeting/email from postmortem to retrospective. * Had meeting Thursday because gary_poster is out tomorrow (also gmb frankban). = Attendance = * bac, gmb, gary_poster * benji sick * frankban holiday = Project status = * Missed our biweekly call

Re: [Launchpad-dev] memcache errors in ec2 and buildbot -- newer python-memcached to blame?

2012-04-05 Thread Gary Poster
On 03/23/12 10:07, Deryck Hodge wrote: On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Aaron Bentleyaa...@canonical.com wrote: On 12-03-23 06:20 AM, Stuart Bishop wrote: On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 3:57 PM, William Grant william.gr...@canonical.com wrote: python-memcached was upgraded a week ago, so it's

Re: [Launchpad-dev] upgrading zope eggs

2012-04-03 Thread Gary Poster
On 03/30/12 17:18, curtis Hovey wrote: Hi Gary, et al. On 03/30/2012 11:39 AM, Gary Poster wrote: * We are far behind on zope eggs. Catching up will be expensive, and it is difficult to be motivated given the low activity/participation of that project. I am interested in updating

[Launchpad-dev] Introduction to and Minutes of yellow squad's weekly postmortem call: 2012-03-30

2012-03-30 Thread Gary Poster
= Introduction for Launchpad devs = Yellow squad has had a weekly postmortem call for many months now--perhaps more than a year now. The purpose is to identify successes, problems, and useful tricks; to share them; and to see if we can problem solve and identify action items. The call

[Launchpad-dev] Thoughts about forks and patches, esp. in LP eggs

2012-03-30 Thread Gary Poster
(This is a repackaged version of an excerpt from the weekly yellow postmortem minutes I sent to the list earlier today. If you've read that email, you've read the meat of this. Responding to this mail for this topic might be easier for everyone to follow.) Yellow squad recently had to

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Introduction to and Minutes of yellow squad's weekly postmortem call: 2012-03-30

2012-03-30 Thread Gary Poster
On 03/30/12 11:59, Aaron Bentley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12-03-30 11:17 AM, Gary Poster wrote: * Suggested process change: never patch eggs; fork branches if you must, and make eggs from them. I thought that this was already our policy: https

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Thoughts about forks and patches, esp. in LP eggs

2012-03-30 Thread Gary Poster
On 03/30/12 16:27, Robert Collins wrote: I have a few questions inspired by the events that lead to at least two of our forks, and various experiences in Ubuntu. How do we preserve our velocity while working with upstream? Do we wait for upstream to be totally happy before we move forward? Do

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Please release lazr.restfulclient

2012-03-30 Thread Gary Poster
FWIW, I started looking at this today, but didn't get to the end. versions.cfg needed to be updated--looks like a few older packages are no longer provided, which is a bit disturbing in the big picture but irrelevant here, once we adjust. === modified file 'versions.cfg' --- versions.cfg

Re: [Launchpad-dev] please be careful what you change on the host machine from setuplxc

2012-03-16 Thread Gary Poster
Hi Martin. We haven't announced setuplxc as a developer tool, AFAIK, even though it has had a commit or two in that direction, so I was somewhat surprised to hear that it was being used for that outside of our squad. I guess I shouldn't have been. So, first off, here's a warning for

[Launchpad-dev] Team leads meeting notes: 2012-03-07

2012-03-07 Thread Gary Poster
Date: 2012-03-07 Chair: gary = Attendance = * Curtis Hovey * Deryck Hodge * Francis Lacoste * Gary Poster * Matt Revell * Julian Edwards * Robert Collins == Apologies == (None) = This week in numbers = The week in numbers: Escalated bugs Fixed: 0, New: 0, Backlog: 8 Regression

Re: [Launchpad-dev] proposed policy: maintenance costs

2012-02-09 Thread Gary Poster
On 02/09/12 12:41, Robert Collins wrote: On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:36 AM, Gary Postergary.pos...@canonical.com wrote: On 02/06/12 17:31, Robert Collins wrote: So - who would be happy (and who would not) with a LOC rule like the one above? Something I would like to keep/renew is Launchpad's

Re: [Launchpad-dev] obsoleting sourcedeps

2012-02-07 Thread Gary Poster
On 02/06/12 17:57, Steve Kowalik wrote: On 07/02/12 09:06, Robert Collins wrote: I propose that we declare sourcecode/ deprecated effective immediately (this means no new stuff in there at all). I would then file bugs for the things that need to move out of sourcecode, and we can get to them as

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Update - running Launchpad tests on canonistack

2012-02-03 Thread Gary Poster
On 02/03/12 11:19, Aaron Bentley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12-02-03 04:30 AM, Ian Booth wrote: I've been doing a bit of investigation on running the Launchpad test suite in a canonistack instance. Andrew Glen-Young has been awesome in helping me get access to an

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Update - running Launchpad tests on canonistack

2012-02-03 Thread Gary Poster
On 02/03/12 13:20, Aaron Bentley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12-02-03 11:30 AM, Gary Poster wrote: This sounds quite a lot like the scripts test farm uses to configure a Launchpad instance. Have you had a look at it? bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~abentley/+junk

[Launchpad-dev] Launchpad-on-Precise broken by launchpad-database-dependencies

2012-01-31 Thread Gary Poster
Hey Stuart. As a follow-on to my other email about Launchpad-on-Lucid being broken because of the new postgresql-common in our PPA, Launchpad-on-Precise is also broken. This combination is broken because launchpad-database-dependencies depends on postgresql-8.4 but we don't have 8.4

Re: [Launchpad-dev] New Lucid postgresql-common package in Launchpad PPA is broken (?)

2012-01-31 Thread Gary Poster
On 01/31/12 16:31, Stuart Bishop wrote: On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:52 AM, Gary Postergary.pos...@canonical.com wrote: Hi Stuart. We were working today on our parallel testing project and ran into a problem that postgresql-common was not installing in Lucid, when it had been doing fine just

[Launchpad-dev] Fwd: Translation statistics background

2012-01-25 Thread Gary Poster
: Gary Poster gary.pos...@canonical.com The problem we're having is that translation statistics are intermittently not being updated. There have been problems with translation statistics for a while, but this seems related to a recent change I was tasked with. The old way: when a translation

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Milestone tags

2012-01-03 Thread Gary Poster
On 12/19/2011 01:53 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Gary Poster gary.pos...@canonical.com wrote: Thanks Rob. I agree with your general observations. We have wondered if a larger rethinking of our modeling would lead to a better design, eventually. We've even

[Launchpad-dev] Small REST project? Maybe Cornice...

2012-01-03 Thread Gary Poster
Despite the performance issues that Launchpad's REST approach has brought us, in my mind REST+JSON is still the best baseline communications approach for web services, and for the back-end of JS browser applications. We can learn from Launchpad's experience and make sure that REST operations are

[Launchpad-dev] Fwd: [Launchpad-users] Request from Leo's owner to fix the leo-editor trunk (or trunk2) branch

2011-12-22 Thread Gary Poster
Anyone (Aaron?) have any ideas on what we can do to help them? Gary Original Message Subject: [Launchpad-users] Request from Leo's owner to fix the leo-editor trunk (or trunk2) branch Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:22:15 -0500 From: Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com To:

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Fwd: [Launchpad-users] Request from Leo's owner to fix the leo-editor trunk (or trunk2) branch

2011-12-22 Thread Gary Poster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/22/2011 12:01 PM, curtis Hovey wrote: On 12/22/2011 11:43 AM, Gary Poster wrote: Anyone (Aaron?) have any ideas on what we can do to help them? Gary Original Message Subject: [Launchpad-users] Request from Leo's owner

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Fwd: [Launchpad-users] Request from Leo's owner to fix the leo-editor trunk (or trunk2) branch

2011-12-22 Thread Gary Poster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks Curtis. I replied to Edward. Gary -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7zcqsACgkQptJosaN9z//lCgCeOj4qeNk7wkMOrvtFGztmqOLR

[Launchpad-dev] Fast downtime alert, question, and concern

2011-12-22 Thread Gary Poster
Alert: The yellow squad has a db branch that needs to be landed asap when we return (r11239 of db-stable). We are accumulating branches that depend on the new table it creates. We'll be really eager to get this deployed once we return in January (or sooner if that's possible). Question:

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Fwd: [Launchpad-users] Request from Leo's owner to fix the leo-editor trunk (or trunk2) branch

2011-12-22 Thread Gary Poster
to help Edward? Thanks, Gary On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Gary Poster gary.pos...@canonical.com wrote: I am Edward Ream, the owner of the Leo project. Launchpad has been great for the Leo project, but recently we have run into problems due to a mistaken commit of a huge file. Deleting

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Fast downtime alert, question, and concern

2011-12-22 Thread Gary Poster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/22/2011 03:04 PM, Francis J. Lacoste wrote: On 11-12-22 01:29 PM, Gary Poster wrote: Alert: The yellow squad has a db branch that needs to be landed asap when we return (r11239 of db-stable). We are accumulating branches that depend

[Launchpad-dev] OOPS-related questions

2011-12-20 Thread Gary Poster
- What's the current policy for deleting old OOPSes? If they are not kept forever, we need to change our bug reporting policies somehow. - On a related note, any idea why the OOPS mentioned in this bug does not exist? https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/899123 -

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Milestone tags

2011-12-19 Thread Gary Poster
Thanks Rob. I agree with your general observations. We have wondered if a larger rethinking of our modeling would lead to a better design, eventually. We've even tried to do some of that rethinking in our discussions about this topic. That said, the discussions led to this proposal. I am

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Changes to Launchpad PPA for refactor-cron-germinate

2011-12-08 Thread Gary Poster
On Dec 7, 2011, at 6:46 PM, William Grant wrote: On 08/12/11 03:50, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 04:40:43PM +, Julian Edwards wrote: On Tuesday 06 December 2011 22:00:39 Colin Watson wrote: Could a Launchpad developer review this lot and copy into the Launchpad PPA?

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Developing interactive mockups for new features

2011-11-22 Thread Gary Poster
On Nov 22, 2011, at 6:57 PM, Ian Booth wrote: Hi all The Purple Assassins are working on the disclosure feature and a large part of that is the managing disclosure LEP (https://dev.launchpad.net/LEP/ManagingDisclosure). Because this work involves the development of a fairly complex new

Re: [Launchpad-dev] ec2 test failures

2011-11-16 Thread Gary Poster
This looks like the same problem that currently has us in testfix. https://lpbuildbot.canonical.com/builders/lucid_lp/builds/1559/steps/shell_6/logs/summary Gary On Nov 16, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Abel Deuring wrote: Hi all, Running ec2 land for lp:~adeuring/launchpad/bug-sorting-2 , I'm

Re: [Launchpad-dev] ec2 test failures

2011-11-16 Thread Gary Poster
suite is a real drag, of course, but we're on the trail. Gary On Nov 16, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Jeroen Vermeulen wrote: On 2011-11-16 21:49, Gary Poster wrote: This looks like the same problem that currently has us in testfix. https://lpbuildbot.canonical.com/builders/lucid_lp/builds/1559/steps

Re: [Launchpad-dev] ec2 test failures - r14301 reverted

2011-11-16 Thread Gary Poster
On Nov 16, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Brad Crittenden wrote: ... Code inspection of these four revisions didn't reveal anything suspicious. At Gary's suggestion I created four branches, each that reverted one of the revisions. Running through ec2 the branch reverting r14301 passed and the other

Re: [Launchpad-dev] ec2 test failures

2011-11-16 Thread Gary Poster
On Nov 16, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Martin Pool m...@sourcefrog.net wrote: I filed this yesterday: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/891028 The way getUniqueInteger is implemented using both only per-thread uniqueness, and also counting on pseudorandom integers to be unique looks pretty

Re: [Launchpad-dev] help with yuixhr_fixture tests in my useoops branch

2011-10-31 Thread Gary Poster
On Oct 30, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Gary Poster gary.pos...@canonical.com wrote: I didn't look at the which specific tests were triggering the problem, but in general, yeah, this suite tests the testing machinery itself, so it wants

Re: [Launchpad-dev] help with yuixhr_fixture tests in my useoops branch

2011-10-31 Thread Gary Poster
On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:11 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Gary Poster gary.pos...@canonical.com wrote: I have a couple of concerns about that approach (which in fact is what I tried initially with yuixhr). The first is that the main testprocess has no visibility

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Rendering templates either server or client-side

2011-10-17 Thread Gary Poster
On Oct 17, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Aaron Bentley aa...@canonical.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I've just given Launchpad the ability to render a given template either server-side or client-side. I've

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Bug tagging

2011-10-07 Thread Gary Poster
On Oct 7, 2011, at 10:06 AM, Danilo Šegan wrote: У сре, 05. 10 2011. у 11:02 -0400, curtis Hovey пише: Prefixes are unneeded, search support all or any tags. But that provides no useful hierarchy between tags. If I just typed code- to get all code-hosting related tags, they might speak

Re: [Launchpad-dev] headsup: upcoming changes to oops-*

2011-10-07 Thread Gary Poster
Sorry, for some reason this has been sitting around unsent. I wondered why no one had replied! :-P So anyway... On Oct 4, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Aaron Bentley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11-10-04 05:54 AM, Robert Collins wrote: Actually thats a lie, this mail is

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Lessons from a weird bug

2011-10-02 Thread Gary Poster
On Oct 2, 2011, at 6:06 PM, James Westby wrote: Hi Brad, Thanks for writing this up. It reminded of another bug to do with validators and dict ordering: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lazr.restful/+bug/561521 I'm not sure if there are changes that could be made to avoid these sorts of

[Launchpad-dev] Announcement: YUI XHR tests for Javascript integration testing

2011-09-23 Thread Gary Poster
Hello all. Yesterday I landed code to write and run YUI XHR tests. This was an effort that began at the Dublin sprint with Francis, Curtis, Deryck, Steve, and myself. It had been put aside for awhile, and I brought it to completion. This is intended to be the replacement for our Windmill

[Launchpad-dev] New tricks for StormStatementRecorder

2011-09-23 Thread Gary Poster
lp.testing.StormStatementRecorder now has a few more features, making it interesting for interactive use. The below is taken from the wiki (https://dev.launchpad.net/Debugging). Sometimes you want to look at the SQL of just a certain slice of code, such as within make harness. The

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Oneiric vs Rabbit

2011-09-13 Thread Gary Poster
On Sep 12, 2011, at 8:17 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Gary Poster gary.pos...@canonical.com wrote: I would expect: ./setup.py sdist upload --signed and in lp make a 'release' and upload the files there as well. I believe sinzui has some automation around

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Failed attempt to contribute to lazr.restfulclient

2011-09-13 Thread Gary Poster
On Sep 13, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Benji York wrote: In the long run we should change the way downloads are presented if we want people to use LP to host Python packages. Otherwise we should move the lazr package downloads to PyPI. We should have the primary download be in PyPI for Python packages,

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Oneiric vs Rabbit

2011-09-12 Thread Gary Poster
On Sep 9, 2011, at 4:49 PM, Robert Collins wrote: rabbitfixture is a lp team project, so it would be better to merge his branch do a release and update to the new release, than to run a side-branch of something we maintain :) Perhaps thats what you meant, in which case, ignore me! Yeah, I

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Oneiric vs Rabbit

2011-09-12 Thread Gary Poster
On Sep 12, 2011, at 6:50 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Gary Poster gary.pos...@canonical.com wrote: On Sep 9, 2011, at 4:49 PM, Robert Collins wrote: rabbitfixture is a lp team project, so it would be better to merge his branch do a release and update

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Oneiric vs Rabbit

2011-09-09 Thread Gary Poster
William's branch worked for me too. I'm going to change Launchpad to use it, so others don't have to mess with this. Gary On Sep 5, 2011, at 7:31 PM, William Grant wrote: On 05/09/11 21:31, Jeroen Vermeulen wrote: On 2011-09-05 17:22, William Grant wrote: As it happens, I solved this

Re: [Launchpad-dev] ec2 failures

2011-08-30 Thread Gary Poster
On Aug 30, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Jonathan Lange wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Gary Poster gary.pos...@canonical.com wrote: I believe this is affecting other ec2 users. I dug into it with abentley's help. It's a bug in bzrlib (symptom details are in http://pastebin.ubuntu.com

Re: [Launchpad-dev] New profiling/analysis features

2011-08-29 Thread Gary Poster
On Aug 24, 2011, at 7:05 AM, Julian Edwards wrote: \o/ Awesome! Thanks Gary. Did you put this on the dev wiki anywhere? It was already mentioned on https://dev.launchpad.net/Debugging but it was a bit out of date. I just updated and gardened that page. The new features are described

Re: [Launchpad-dev] ec2 failures

2011-08-26 Thread Gary Poster
The good news: yes, I had an old ec2 command that didn't know the StevenK now was blessed to provide AMIs. Once I did that, the exception I quoted stopped. The bad news: I still have a lot of other exceptions I didn't mention. They all look like this.

Re: [Launchpad-dev] ec2 failures

2011-08-26 Thread Gary Poster
and fix for bzr, make an MP, and make a Launchpad egg. Gary On Aug 26, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Gary Poster wrote: The good news: yes, I had an old ec2 command that didn't know the StevenK now was blessed to provide AMIs. Once I did that, the exception I quoted stopped. The bad news: I still

Re: [Launchpad-dev] increase our Postgres statistics targets

2011-08-25 Thread Gary Poster
Cool, thank you Stuart. I've linked the incident report to the bug. Gary On Aug 24, 2011, at 11:36 PM, Stuart Bishop wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:48 AM, Gary Poster gary.pos...@canonical.com wrote: Hi Stuart. When working on https://wiki.canonical.com/IncidentReports/2011-08-19-LP

[Launchpad-dev] buildbot failure real soon now

2011-08-25 Thread Gary Poster
Looks like we are about to have a buildbot failure. This is caused because I submitted a branch with passing tests that relied on the branches that Aaron reverted for bug 833787. I'm going to revert my branch and submit it as a testfix. Gary ___

Re: [Launchpad-dev] buildbot failure real soon now

2011-08-25 Thread Gary Poster
This is done. Gary On Aug 25, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Gary Poster wrote: Looks like we are about to have a buildbot failure. This is caused because I submitted a branch with passing tests that relied on the branches that Aaron reverted for bug 833787. I'm going to revert my branch and submit

[Launchpad-dev] ec2 failures

2011-08-25 Thread Gary Poster
Hey. Anyone see failures like this in ec2? Any ideas on the problem? I can't dupe this locally. If no-one has any ideas I'll dive into a running ec instance tomorrow. Thanks Gary FAILURE: lp.archiveuploader.tests.test_uploadprocessor.TestUploadProcessor.testXZDebUpload

Re: [Launchpad-dev] Reusable way to test Zope security adapters?

2011-08-23 Thread Gary Poster
On Aug 22, 2011, at 6:10 AM, Gavin Panella wrote: Is there a reusable way to test security proxies? I've partially done it by hand in some WIP code* but it's the kind of thing for which I suspect someone else has already come up with a better solution. * http://goo.gl/AAmfn, line 532

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