Re: [Lazarus] FCL-Web and new WebDesign packages

2010-01-28 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: OK, let me try and sum up this message thread. We have the following technologies/projects/options available: * FCL-Web * fpWeb They are the same thing. fpWeb is a unit in fcl-web. * jQuery * Gecko/XULRunner * ExtJS * ExtPas * ExtPascal -

Re: [Lazarus] FCL-Web and new WebDesign packages

2010-01-28 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: set the trends. After 1 day of testing the differences in IE and Firefox already drove me mad :( Exactly my issue. My boss was actually very surprised that there are no standards in web development. It is not what he was told by other people :-) Gee wiz, where

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus Forum seems to be hacked!

2010-01-28 Thread Marc Weustink
Matt Shaffer wrote: Right, but what I meant was if someone manages to upload their own PHP file to the lazarus server, they can easily have uploaded a PHP file manager which has the capability of deleting files, etc, without ever needing ssh/ftp (this assumes the attack was done through a

[Lazarus] Fatal: Internal Error 20051152

2010-01-28 Thread Roland Turcan
Hello friends, It started to show this %subject% since I added some code into {$IF MyBoolCondition} example: {$MODE Delphi} Unit MyUnit; interface Uses MyConditions; {$IF MyCond} //some declaration implementation // some code {$ELSE} //some declaration implementation // some code

[Lazarus] Carbon: TCalendar

2010-01-28 Thread Roland Turcan
Hello friends and Dmitry, Does anybody know about not working TCalendar on Carbon? It doesn't react on click events. BTW: How can I search in bug tracker if this bug is already reported? -- Best regards, TRoland http://www.rotursoft.sk http://exekutor.rotursoft.sk --

Re: [Lazarus] Fatal: Internal Error 20051152

2010-01-28 Thread Vincent Snijders
Roland Turcan schreef: Hello friends, It started to show this %subject% since I added some code into Please, send responses to the fpc-pascal list. Vincent -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org

Re: [Lazarus] Carbon: TCalendar

2010-01-28 Thread dmitry boyarintsev
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Roland Turcan k...@rotursoft.sk wrote: BTW: How can I search in bug tracker if this bug is already reported? please report the bug. thanks, dmitry -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org

Re: [Lazarus] FCL-Web and new WebDesign packages

2010-01-28 Thread Adrian Veith
Am 27.01.2010 17:30, schrieb Bee Jay: Take a look at HaXe (haxe.org) - HaXe is a dynamic but type safe programming language, which is much better suited for Web programming than ExtPascal (in my opinion). I've heard about it and wasn't interested since it doesn't support pascal. :P there

[Lazarus] Make clean not cleaning all

2010-01-28 Thread Marcelo B de Paula
Hello all, It seems that make clean isn´t cleaning the source correctly. After issuing the command i still have a lot of files in output dirs, like lazarus\units\i386-win32 or components output dir too. Is this right ? Regards, Marcelo. PS: Using Lazarus svn win32. --

Re: [Lazarus] FCL-Web and new WebDesign packages

2010-01-28 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
I use: - pascal and HaXe/Neko for the server - HaXe for the rest Why should I learn another new language while I could do all those things in pascal? Except for using external existing JS library. That's why I'm very interested with what Michael, Joost and Mattias doing currently. because

Re: [Lazarus] FCL-Web and new WebDesign packages

2010-01-28 Thread Leonardo M.
El jue, 28-01-2010 a las 13:56 +0100, Michael Van Canneyt escribió: I use pascal since 30 years for my every day development and love it - but IMHO for web programming, it is more productive to have a dynamic language - it is the nature of websites That could be true (not in my case) if you

Re: [Lazarus] FCL-Web and new WebDesign packages

2010-01-28 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Adrian Veith wrote: environments - I use pascal since 30 years for my every day development and love it - but IMHO for web programming, it is more productive to have a dynamic language - it is the nature of websites. (Free)-Pascal A matter of taste I guess. I use pure Object Pascal to write

Re: [Lazarus] Make clean not cleaning all

2010-01-28 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Paul Ishenin wrote: Is this right ? try make bigideclean Yuck! :-) When is FPC and Lazarus getting rid of Makefiles? Wasn't the whole idea of fpmake to remove the usage of Makefiles once and for all? Makefiles are so C/C++ style. :-/ Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a

[Lazarus] Make clean not cleaning all

2010-01-28 Thread Marcelo B de Paula
try make bigideclean Best regards, Paul Ishenin. Still not work. The main outdir at lazarus/units/ has a lot of .lfm files. Some components have files like .o, .compiled, .ppu Regards, Marcelo. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] Make clean not cleaning all

2010-01-28 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Marcelo B de Paula wrote: Still not work. The main outdir at lazarus/units/ has a lot of .lfm files. Some components have files like .o, .compiled, .ppu Are you using the SubVersion or Git repository of Lazarus? If the latter, then use 'git clean' instead of the 'make' command. This will

Re: [Lazarus] FCL-Web and new WebDesign packages

2010-01-28 Thread Dariusz Mazur
W dniu 2010-01-28 14:22, Graeme Geldenhuys pisze: Adrian Veith wrote: environments - I use pascal since 30 years for my every day development and love it - but IMHO for web programming, it is more productive to have a dynamic language - it is the nature of websites. (Free)-Pascal A

Re: [Lazarus] FCL-Web and new WebDesign packages

2010-01-28 Thread Andrew Brunner
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 01:30:28PM +0100, Adrian Veith wrote: because Pascal is not as well suited for dynamic languages and environments - Do you mean scripting languages like JavaScript? If this is the case than you

[Lazarus] How to change default font for the application

2010-01-28 Thread Roland Turcan
Hello lazarus project! How can I manipulate the default font for the application during application startup as in the past in CLX's TApplication.Font. I want to avoid of setting for all components on all forms in project an exact font, but to manipulate it from central point. Thanks for all

Re: [Lazarus] FCL-Web and new WebDesign packages

2010-01-28 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 08:57:56AM -0600, Andrew Brunner wrote: because Pascal is not as well suited for dynamic languages and environments - Do you mean scripting languages like JavaScript? If this is the case than you should know that there are pascal based scripting utilities for

Re: [Lazarus] FCL-Web and new WebDesign packages

2010-01-28 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org wrote: My boss was actually very surprised that there are no standards in web development. It is not what he was told by other people :-) There are standards from W3C and even a validator: http://validator.w3.org/ But

Re: [Lazarus] FCL-Web and new WebDesign packages

2010-01-28 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote: A matter of taste I guess. I use pure Object Pascal to write all our CGI applications. Our CGI apps do things PHP, JavaScript etc can only dream of! Not to mention I have the full RTL, lots of the FCL and other

Re: [Lazarus] FCL-Web and new WebDesign packages

2010-01-28 Thread Leonardo M.
El jue, 28-01-2010 a las 13:37 -0200, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho escribió: On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote: A matter of taste I guess. I use pure Object Pascal to write all our CGI applications. Our CGI apps do things PHP, JavaScript etc can

Re: [Lazarus] FCL-Web and new WebDesign packages

2010-01-28 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org wrote: My boss was actually very surprised that there are no standards in web development. It is not what he was told by other people :-) There are standards

Re: [Lazarus] FCL-Web and new WebDesign packages

2010-01-28 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: El jue, 28-01-2010 a las 13:37 -0200, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho escribió: On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote: A matter of taste I guess. I use pure Object Pascal to write all our CGI applications.

Re: [Lazarus] cursor image

2010-01-28 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
ik schrieb: On X-Server you can have custom made mouse cursors that can be loaded in an on demand situations. This should be common to most platforms. That's what I wish to have, the icon of the mouse cursor itself as loaded into X-Server . So its the associated icon to the specific window.

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus Forum seems to be hacked!

2010-01-28 Thread patspiper
Was the php shell C99madshell? It seems many sites have been recently compromised via this shell. The ways the shell is uploaded depends on the vulnerabilities of the forum software. Marc Weustink wrote: Matt Shaffer wrote: Right, but what I meant was if someone manages to upload their

Re: [Lazarus] FCL-Web and new WebDesign packages

2010-01-28 Thread Bee Jay
It's not like Morfik - to write an wrapper, for an existing JS library is a matter of one or two hours - I did it for Google-Maps and JQuery. Have you tried to write a wrapper for ExtJS or any other advanced JS library that provides advanced UI widgets with server side data binding, not

Re: [Lazarus] FCL-Web and new WebDesign packages

2010-01-28 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 28 January 2010 17:37, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho felipemonteiro.carva...@gmail.com wrote: ...snip... what has put me off from cgi ... I usually have a lot more HTML then code, so I actually would like to have a HTML document where I put In our case it is the opposite. We have a LOT more OP

Re: [Lazarus] FCL-Web and new WebDesign packages

2010-01-28 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 28 January 2010 20:55, Bee Jay bee.ogra...@gmail.com wrote: It's not the problem of pascal nor cgi, it's the problem of your coding style and management. Use templates, MVC or MVP, separate logic from UI, etc. I think you should have known all those things. :) 100% correct. We have a

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus Forum seems to be hacked!

2010-01-28 Thread waldo kitty
On 1/28/2010 02:55, Matt Shaffer wrote: Right, but what I meant was if someone manages to upload their own PHP file to the lazarus server, they can easily have uploaded a PHP file manager which has the capability of deleting files, etc, without ever needing ssh/ftp (this assumes the attack was

Re: [Lazarus] Make clean not cleaning all

2010-01-28 Thread waldo kitty
On 1/28/2010 08:24, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Paul Ishenin wrote: Is this right ? try make bigideclean Yuck! :-) When is FPC and Lazarus getting rid of Makefiles? Wasn't the whole idea of fpmake to remove the usage of Makefiles once and for all? Makefiles are so C/C++ style. :-/ hunh???

Re: [Lazarus] Make clean not cleaning all

2010-01-28 Thread waldo kitty
On 1/28/2010 08:53, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Another Makefile issue: --- Say I'm on revision X and I've built my lazarus and LCL. Now I get an update, which removes or renames some components. I gather the Makefile has also updated accordingly. So if I now do a 'make

Re: [Lazarus] Make clean not cleaning all

2010-01-28 Thread waldo kitty
On 1/29/2010 01:35, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: waldo kitty wrote: hunh??? don't you mean ASM style? i've used make files for at least 20+ years and mostly for my ASM stuff way back [t|w]hen ;P Either way, the point is still the same: they are simply *not* Object Pascal style! :) :P spoil

Re: [Lazarus] Make clean not cleaning all

2010-01-28 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
waldo kitty wrote: :) :P spoil sport! :P :P :) :lol: ;-) Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org