Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
Στις 6/12/2010 9:57 μμ, ο/η Vincent Snijders έγραψε: 2010/12/6 Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: This is why a Free Pascal / Lazarus/ "FP&L" / ObjectFlorian Pascal ( ;) ) ( pick your TLA ) Foundation comes in sight ... This mail, http://www.mail-archive.com/laza...@miraclec.com/msg06878.html is stil u

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Vincent Snijders
2010/12/6 Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis : > This is why a Free Pascal / Lazarus/ "FP&L" / ObjectFlorian Pascal ( ;) ) ( > pick your TLA ) Foundation comes in sight ... This mail, http://www.mail-archive.com/laza...@miraclec.com/msg06878.html is stil up to date. Users, feel free to unite and create a fo

Re: [Lazarus] Clean Up + Build all

2010-12-06 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 17:24:08 +0300 Max Vlasov wrote: > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Kjow wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > what is the equivalent on command line of the "Clean Up + Build all" in the > > IDE? > > > With: > > make bigideclean bigide OPT="-Xg" > > lazbuild --build-ide= > > I don't

Re: [Lazarus] fcl-web, html and data-binding

2010-12-06 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Joost van der Sluis wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 17:32 +0100, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Joost van der Sluis wrote: On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 18:17 +0100, Michael Van Canneyt wrote Currently not. Offcourse there is, you can use the webdesign pa

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
This is why a Free Pascal / Lazarus/ "FP&L" / ObjectFlorian Pascal ( ;) ) ( pick your TLA ) Foundation comes in sight ... " Software is a conversation, between the software developer and the user. But for that conversation to happen requires a lot of work beyond the software development.

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Marco Aurelio Ramirez Carrillo
Hi. I've been following this thread. A few years ago, I suggested (with another email address) to try to make a foundation, like "Open Office" foundation, for FPC or/and Lazarus, in this list. But, several people disapproved. Why I think its a good idea to have a "foundation" or group ? I observ

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Burkhard Carstens
Am Montag, 6. Dezember 2010 16:58 schrieb Michael A. Hess: > > 2010/12/6 Alexsander Rosa > > > >> Back to the topic: I think the Lazarus project could SELL products > >> like this: > >> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=648 > > > > You mean like: http://www.cafepress.com/mirac

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Lukasz Sokol
On 06/12/2010 16:50, Alexsander Rosa wrote: > I see the "service" part of the so-called "money model" is ok, then. > We have only to improve and/or create a cool LOGO to sell more apparel. > Take a look at some other "programming tools" logos I've found online: > > Delphi (auto parts) > http://del

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Alexsander Rosa
I see the "service" part of the so-called "money model" is ok, then. We have only to improve and/or create a cool LOGO to sell more apparel. Take a look at some other "programming tools" logos I've found online: Delphi (auto parts) http://delphi.com/images/app/logoDelphiMain.gif (cool) Embarcader

Re: [Lazarus] fcl-web, html and data-binding

2010-12-06 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 17:32 +0100, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Joost van der Sluis wrote: > > > On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 18:17 +0100, Michael Van Canneyt wrote > >> Currently not. > > > > Offcourse there is, you can use the webdesign package for this. Only it > > uses s

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 11:49 -0200, Alexsander Rosa wrote: > Both Ubuntu links are very easy to find at www.ubuntu.com website. > Compare that to www.lazarus.freepascal.org website. Yes, but the big difference is that Ubuntu is in fact a commercial company. So they can offer the support on their ma

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 10:46 -0200, Alexsander Rosa wrote: > Back to the topic: I think the Lazarus project could SELL products > like this: > http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=648 > > Ubuntu also has a service called "Ubuntu Advantage" which gives > advantages to enterprises t

Re: [Lazarus] fcl-web, html and data-binding

2010-12-06 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Joost van der Sluis wrote: On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 18:17 +0100, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: > Hi, yesterday I was talking with a colleague about creating a complex > html (no ajax) form using fcl-web. > > I explained that I know t

Re: [Lazarus] fcl-web, html and data-binding

2010-12-06 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 18:17 +0100, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: > > > Hi, yesterday I was talking with a colleague about creating a complex > > html (no ajax) form using fcl-web. > > > > I explained that I know two ways to do it, the first one is to c

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Michael A. Hess
> 2010/12/6 Alexsander Rosa > >> Back to the topic: I think the Lazarus project could SELL products like >> this: >> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=648 >> > > > You mean like: http://www.cafepress.com/miraclec > > Michael, how many did you sell over the years? Little to no

[Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus (THE IMPORTANT PART)

2010-12-06 Thread Osvaldo Filho
Please, see the important part: "Thus next time *you*’ll be deploying your application with ... *(LAZARUS)*, think about sending $10 or even $1. I bet it’s nothing for you (compared to price of the application or money you’re paying for toilet paper in your office). And ten thousand people (not m

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Vincent Snijders
2010/12/6 zeljko : > On Monday 06 December 2010 14:02, Vincent Snijders wrote: >> 2010/12/6 Alexsander Rosa >> >> > Back to the topic: I think the Lazarus project could SELL products like >> > this: >> > http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=648 >> >> You mean like: http://www.caf

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread zeljko
On Monday 06 December 2010 14:02, Vincent Snijders wrote: > 2010/12/6 Alexsander Rosa > > > Back to the topic: I think the Lazarus project could SELL products like > > this: > > http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=648 > > You mean like: http://www.cafepress.com/miraclec Wow, pi

Re: [Lazarus] Breakpoint

2010-12-06 Thread Max Vlasov
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Dave Coventry wrote: > Me! Me! I can answer this one! :) > > On 6 December 2010 11:03, Kjow wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I need to read a variable value with a breakpoint. I use gdb. > > I stopped my application with a breakpoint and now I need to read a > > value

Re: [Lazarus] Clean Up + Build all

2010-12-06 Thread Max Vlasov
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Kjow wrote: > Hi all, > > what is the equivalent on command line of the "Clean Up + Build all" in the > IDE? > > With: > make bigideclean bigide OPT="-Xg" > lazbuild --build-ide= > I don't have the same result. > > Thank you, > Kjow > > I also wanted to know, b

Re: [Lazarus] filesystem timing Linux vs Win

2010-12-06 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:45:59AM +0100, Sven Barth wrote: > On 27.11.2010 22:35, Florian Kl?mpfl wrote: > > Am 27.11.2010 22:11, schrieb Sven Barth: > >> > >> [OT]Can I cross compile FPC for another target using the Makefile? > > > > e.g. > > make clean all OS_TARGET=linux > > ? > > > > Would th

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Alexsander Rosa
Both Ubuntu links are very easy to find at www.ubuntu.com website. Compare that to www.lazarus.freepascal.org website. 2010/12/6 Florian Klaempfl > Am 06.12.2010 13:46, schrieb Alexsander Rosa: > > Back to the topic: I think the Lazarus project could SELL products like > > this: > > http://shop.

Re: [Lazarus] GUI development for web UI

2010-12-06 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 02:43:41PM +0100, Michael Schnell wrote: > > OTOH, If doing Windows, Microsoft of course wants you to use IIS. > Microsoft IIS provides the ISAPI interface between the webserver and the > cgi program, that in this case is neither a program nor a service, but a > DLL. ISA

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Am 06.12.2010 13:46, schrieb Alexsander Rosa: > Back to the topic: I think the Lazarus project could SELL products like > this: > http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=648 > > Ubuntu also has a service called "Ubuntu Advantage" which gives > advantages to enterprises that choose t

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Alexsander Rosa
Here in Brazil there's an online store called "Loja Geek" that sells -- among other things -- open-source related t-shirts with nice designs. They even have a "section" called "Languages and Development": http://www.lojageek.com/projetos-livres/linguagens-desenvolvimento.html I've googled their ro

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Vincent Snijders
2010/12/6 Alexsander Rosa > Back to the topic: I think the Lazarus project could SELL products like > this: > http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=648 > You mean like: http://www.cafepress.com/miraclec Michael, how many did you sell over the years? Vincent -- ___

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Alexsander Rosa
Back to the topic: I think the Lazarus project could SELL products like this: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=648 Ubuntu also has a service called "Ubuntu Advantage" which gives advantages to enterprises that choose to pay a fee, like a network admin tool, a 24/7 support pho

Re: [Lazarus] GUI development for web UI

2010-12-06 Thread Richard Saunders
On 12/6/2010 3:14 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: ...please stop quoting such a lot of the previous messages... I'd like to add my voice to this request. *Everyone* please trim your quotes! -- Rich S. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazaru

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Op 2010-12-05 11:28, Bo Berglund het geskryf: You are referring to a webpage which holds no information as to WHAT Firebird really is. It contains loads of info like many other A kind suggestion: Have your eyes tested very soon. In the title of that website, even th

Re: [Lazarus] Breakpoint

2010-12-06 Thread Dave Coventry
Me! Me! I can answer this one! :) On 6 December 2010 11:03, Kjow wrote: > Hi all, > > I need to read a variable value with a breakpoint. I use gdb. > I stopped my application with a breakpoint and now I need to read a > value of a variable, but I don't know how. Place the cursor over the variabl

[Lazarus] Clean Up + Build all

2010-12-06 Thread Kjow
Hi all, what is the equivalent on command line of the "Clean Up + Build all" in the IDE? With: make bigideclean bigide OPT="-Xg" lazbuild --build-ide= I don't have the same result. Thank you, Kjow -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.

[Lazarus] Breakpoint

2010-12-06 Thread Kjow
Hi all, I need to read a variable value with a breakpoint. I use gdb. I stopped my application with a breakpoint and now I need to read a value of a variable, but I don't know how. Thank you! Kjow -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freep

Re: [Lazarus] GUI development for web UI

2010-12-06 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi, No I'm not the list moderator (he/she seems asleep). Can Dariusz, Michael, Marcos etc please stop quoting such a lot of the previous messages. We can all read the previous message if needed. Currently your new posts contain 90% quotes and 3-5 lines of new text. This is very annoying to read a