Re: [Lazarus] Graeme would love this, or not, I think

2013-10-12 Thread Dave Coventry
On 12 October 2013 04:21, leledumbo leledumbo_c...@yahoo.co.id wrote: 3-4 comments to help promoting Lazarus/Free Pascal to them. Mind to help as well, guys? Yes, one of them would be me. (Rinkhals). Graeme will confirm that there is a lot of Microsoft-centric sentiment here and that open

Re: [Lazarus] Graeme would love this, or not, I think

2013-10-12 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 11/10/13 20:18, vfclists . wrote: You couldn't make this up. Is it a joke or not? One of the comments sum it up perfectly: kickbacks rule once again... who gives a about the kids... Lets just hope this was a bad joke. Regards, G. --

Re: [Lazarus] Graeme would love this, or not, I think

2013-10-12 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 12/10/13 07:00, Dave Coventry wrote: Graeme will confirm that there is a lot of Microsoft-centric sentiment here and that open source is largely regarded with suspicion. The MS Office mandate is what is really confusing me. The South African government was always very pro to open source

Re: [Lazarus] Graeme would love this, or not, I think

2013-10-12 Thread Dave Coventry
On 12 October 2013 09:44, Graeme Geldenhuys gra...@geldenhuys.co.uk wrote: But this behaviour is typical South African government. The one hand has no idea what the other is doing! I'm afraid that corruption is rife in the Education Department, too, so some kind of ministerial incentive from

Re: [Lazarus] Graeme would love this, or not, I think

2013-10-12 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 08:18:16PM +0100, vfclists . wrote: Department of Basic Education bans Free and Open Source Software in SA Schools and mandates programming an ancient, moribund language in contradiction of government's own policy http://twitter.com/share

Re: [Lazarus] Graeme would love this, or not, I think

2013-10-12 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 05:28:33PM -0400, Dmitry Boyarintsev wrote: There was something similar 1-2 years ago in Great Britain, where education commission recognized pascal languages (Delphi) as the best for education. So the next generation of good developers will come from South Africa.

Re: [Lazarus] Graeme would love this, or not, I think

2013-10-12 Thread Dave Coventry
On 12 October 2013 13:36, Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl wrote: Probably because dolling up the UI is easier and gives instant-gratification. My view is that instant gratification is the key. Once they see how easy it is to produce an application, some will look to develop the

Re: [Lazarus] Graeme would love this, or not, I think

2013-10-12 Thread Jürgen Hestermann
Am 2013-10-12 13:36, schrieb Marco van de Voort: One could argue about language, but Delphi as RAD-IDE is definitely not a good choice. Students tend to overfocus on embellishing forms etc, and not spending their time on the more problem-solving oriented assignment. Probably because dolling

Re: [Lazarus] Graeme would love this, or not, I think

2013-10-12 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Marco van de Voort schrieb: One could argue about language, but Delphi as RAD-IDE is definitely not a good choice. Students tend to overfocus on embellishing forms etc, and not spending their time on the more problem-solving oriented assignment. What's a form worth without a task and event

[Lazarus] For QtLCL users - new feature, need testers

2013-10-12 Thread zeljko
Hi all, Today I've commited new feature of qt widgetset (r43218) - scrollable forms. Now FCentralWidget isn't pure widget anymore but QAbstractScrollArea, which provides scrollbars on forms for us. IT'S DISABLED BY DEFAULT, so if you want to test and use scrollable forms with qt widgetset you

Re: [Lazarus] For QtLCL users - new feature, need testers

2013-10-12 Thread zeljko
On 10/12/2013 04:38 PM, zeljko wrote: Hi all, Today I've commited new feature of qt widgetset (r43218) - scrollable forms. Now FCentralWidget isn't pure widget anymore but QAbstractScrollArea, which provides scrollbars on forms for us. IT'S DISABLED BY DEFAULT, so if you want to test and use

Re: [Lazarus] Graeme would love this, or not, I think

2013-10-12 Thread wkitty42
On Saturday, October 12, 2013 7:36 AM, Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl wrote: On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 05:28:33PM -0400, Dmitry Boyarintsev wrote: Another proof, that pascal is the language that makes sense. One could argue about language, but Delphi as RAD-IDE is definitely not a

Re: [Lazarus] For QtLCL users - new feature, need testers

2013-10-12 Thread Krzysztof
I'm still dreaming about modular Qt :) . Now to deploy QtLCL application I need to provide all Qt libs (even webkit, but I don't use it). I'm working on project based on pure Qt 5.1, I needed to use C++ instead of FPC :/ . Those libs are amazing, not only GUI but for example QMultimedia, QNetwork