[Lazarus] [OT] About licences

2011-03-26 Thread Kjow
Hi all, I need some help to understand the licences world, probably due my not English origins I have some difficulties to understand the terms of various licences and their relating limitations. Do you know a simple and clear site that explain all terms in few words? e.g. (these are only explica

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] About licences

2011-03-26 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 02:43:45PM +0100, Kjow wrote: > I need some help to understand the licences world, probably due my not > English origins I have some difficulties to understand the terms of > various licences and their relating limitations. > Do you know a simple and clear site that explain

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] About licences

2011-03-26 Thread de_jean_7777
On 26.3.2011 15:14, Marco van de Voort wrote: The only problem is designtime code. This links into the IDE, and thus touched the GPL. However, the GPL only activates on distribution, so unless you plan to release Lazarus with MPL stuff preinstalled, there is no problem. I don't think this is co

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] About licences

2011-03-26 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 03:28:56PM +0100, de_jean_ wrote: > On 26.3.2011 15:14, Marco van de Voort wrote: > > The only problem is designtime code. This links into the IDE, and thus > > touched the GPL. However, the GPL only activates on distribution, so unless > > you plan to release Lazarus wi

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] About licences

2011-03-29 Thread Kjow
2011/3/26 Marco van de Voort : > If I understood it correctly, MPL is pretty much a corporate wording of the > LGPL. > > MPL is incompatible with GPL/LGPL, but since Lazarus/FPC use > LGPL-with-exception, I don't know if that still creates a problem, since > that exception essentially defangs the c

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] About licences

2011-03-29 Thread José Mejuto
Hello Lazarus-List, Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 10:25:38 AM, you wrote: K> About Audorra/Acinerella... how can be Audorra under MPL if the use of K> acinerella make the project GPL? K> So, if I use Audorra, that links acinerella, shouldn't be that K> acinerella clauses apply only to audorra? The co

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] About licences

2011-03-29 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:25:38AM +0200, Kjow wrote: > > rest of the project. > > > > The GPL is different, and the ancinerella bit is a big issue, which would > > make the whole thing GPL. (there are some exceptions though) > > Hi, I'm sorry for delay. > So, if I use LGPL/MPL products, but I don

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] About licences

2011-03-29 Thread Kjow
2011/3/29 Marco van de Voort : > With MPL and LGPL you are officially obliged to donate fixes to the relevant > packages back. The (L)GPL with exception bit absolves you from that. I mean only products made with software MPL/LGPL (so a redistributable build). Everytime I found a bug I will report

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] About licences

2011-03-29 Thread Kjow
2011/3/29 José Mejuto : > The code belong to Audorra (own written code) is MPL/GPL/LGPL (you > choose), but when used with Acinerella everything is GPL only. If you > use Audorra with Acinerella your software is GPL too (mandatory due > viral activity of GPL). > > They clearly shows in the web page

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] About licences

2011-03-29 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 09:35:37PM +0200, Kjow wrote: > > (and the subsequent distribution) takes > > on the obligations. > > Perfect, I understood. > > > Only if you distribute source. > > And if I don't distribuite source, nothing? If you provide binaries, strictly speaking you must provide t

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] About licences

2011-03-30 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 29/03/2011 21:15, Marco van de Voort wrote: With MPL and LGPL you are officially obliged to donate fixes to the relevant packages back. Correct. The (L)GPL with exception bit absolves you from that. Where does it say that? By "LGPL with exception", I gather you mean like the license u

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] About licences

2011-03-30 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 09:23:12AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > > The (L)GPL with exception bit absolves you from that. > > Where does it say that? By "LGPL with exception", I gather you mean like > the license used by FPC? It that case, there is only a "static linking > exception". You are

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] About licences

2011-03-30 Thread Zaher Dirkey
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Marco van de Voort wrote: > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 09:23:12AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > > > The (L)GPL with exception bit absolves you from that. > > > > Where does it say that? By "LGPL with exception", I gather you mean like > > the license used by FPC?

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] About licences

2011-03-30 Thread waldo kitty
On 3/30/2011 08:18, Zaher Dirkey wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Marco van de Voort wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 09:23:12AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > > The (L)GPL with exception bit absolves you from that. > > Where does it say that? By "LGPL with exception

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] About licences

2011-03-30 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Am 31.03.2011 04:09, schrieb waldo kitty: > On 3/30/2011 08:18, Zaher Dirkey wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Marco van de Voort >> wrote: >> >> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 09:23:12AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: >> > > The (L)GPL with exception bit absolves you from that. >>

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] About licences

2011-04-12 Thread t . wieckowski
I'm wondering about one thing, Can I do (at all) application with closed source, by Linux ? I ask because I saw what dependencies the empty project have: linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x7cdff000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7ff3b58cd000) libX11.so.6 => /us

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] About licences

2011-04-13 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 08:38:48AM +0200, t.wieckow...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm wondering about one thing, Can I do (at all) application with > closed source, by Linux ? Licensewise yes. Practically no, except when you only target specific long lived commercial distributions (like RHEL). Because the

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] About licences

2011-04-13 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 13/04/2011 08:38, t.wieckow...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm wondering about one thing, Can I do (at all) application with > closed source, by Linux ? > I ask because I saw what dependencies the empty project have: > > linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x7cdff000) ...[snip lots of dependencies]...

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] About licences

2011-04-13 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 13/04/2011 08:38, t.wieckow...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm wondering about one thing, Can I do (at all) application with > closed source, by Linux ? > I ask because I saw what dependencies the empty project have: Interpreting your email slightly different to my previous reply. The answer is again y