Re: [Lazarus] The perfect Linux distro for FPC and Lazarus development

2011-03-09 Thread Lukasz Sokol
On 08/03/2011 19:45, Marco van de Voort wrote: > In our previous episode, Frank Church said: [...] >> They are cloud users in that sense as a lot of their data is stored >> and found in the Google cloud. > > That is a stretch. Google is a mere index, like searchengines have for > decades. For me C

Re: [Lazarus] The perfect Linux distro for FPC and Lazarus development

2011-03-08 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Frank Church said: > > > > Before you judge other people's procedures and actions, at least build a > > case why it could be beneficial. > > > > The last attempt (the Netscape community server engine), didn't fare so > > well, because just one person knew it. > I am not ju

Re: [Lazarus] The perfect Linux distro for FPC and Lazarus development

2011-03-08 Thread Frank Church
On 8 March 2011 11:48, Marco van de Voort wrote: > On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 10:57:12AM +, Frank Church wrote: > > > I think the real issue here is a lot of leading > > Lazarus/FPC developers are comfortable and satisfied with their computer > > setup and organization, which they probably have

Re: [Lazarus] The perfect Linux distro for FPC and Lazarus development

2011-03-08 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 10:57:12AM +, Frank Church wrote: > I think the real issue here is a lot of leading > Lazarus/FPC developers are comfortable and satisfied with their computer > setup and organization, which they probably have spent a long time > perfecting, pre cloud and pre Web 2.0 an

Re: [Lazarus] The perfect Linux distro for FPC and Lazarus development

2011-03-08 Thread Frank Church
On 7 March 2011 12:33, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > Op 2011-03-07 12:58, Frank Church het geskryf: > > >> How about a stock VMWare, VirtualBox, Amazon EC2 image that is setup >> just right for perfect Lazarus/FPC development, with all the options >> setup exactly right? >> > > I thought about that

Re: [Lazarus] The perfect Linux distro for FPC and Lazarus development

2011-03-08 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Op 2011-03-08 10:43, Sven Barth het geskryf: because Arch follows the principle of a rolling release with rather bleeding edge packages (like Gentoo, but normally not compiled from I'm past the stage of always wanting the bleeding edge stuff. Now I just want a stable system that always works.

Re: [Lazarus] The perfect Linux distro for FPC and Lazarus development

2011-03-08 Thread Sven Barth
Am 07.03.2011 10:30, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: Op 2011-03-07 11:06, Mark Morgan Lloyd het geskryf: however is that Debian/Ubuntu do have a fairly well-tested mechanism in place for upgrading libraries etc. when necessary, while Slackware- at least when I last looked- has to be reinstalled which

Re: [Lazarus] The perfect Linux distro for FPC and Lazarus development

2011-03-07 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Op 2011-03-07 12:58, Frank Church het geskryf: How about a stock VMWare, VirtualBox, Amazon EC2 image that is setup just right for perfect Lazarus/FPC development, with all the options setup exactly right? I thought about that years ago, but not everybody has a beefy

Re: [Lazarus] The perfect Linux distro for FPC and Lazarus development

2011-03-07 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Op 2011-03-07 12:58, Frank Church het geskryf: How about a stock VMWare, VirtualBox, Amazon EC2 image that is setup just right for perfect Lazarus/FPC development, with all the options setup exactly right? I thought about that years ago, but not everybody has a beefy system to run a VM sessio

Re: [Lazarus] The perfect Linux distro for FPC and Lazarus development

2011-03-07 Thread Frank Church
On 7 March 2011 10:25, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > Op 2011-03-07 12:09, Mark Morgan Lloyd het geskryf: > > apt-get etc. However with the generally-cheap Internet connections in >> Europe >> > > That's unfortunately just a dream for South Africans. Here the general > thinking is "lets screw the co

Re: [Lazarus] The perfect Linux distro for FPC and Lazarus development

2011-03-07 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Op 2011-03-07 12:09, Mark Morgan Lloyd het geskryf: apt-get etc. However with the generally-cheap Internet connections in Europe That's unfortunately just a dream for South Africans. Here the general thinking is "lets screw the consumer for as long as we can". :-/ years ago. You can obvio

Re: [Lazarus] The perfect Linux distro for FPC and Lazarus development

2011-03-07 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Op 2011-03-07 11:55, Mark Morgan Lloyd het geskryf: Well I do- when I have to- and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. That's not good enough for me, hence I always do a clean install, and I am guaranteed it works. I just think that it's important to have the option, and I'm writ

Re: [Lazarus] The perfect Linux distro for FPC and Lazarus development

2011-03-07 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Op 2011-03-07 11:18, Henry Vermaak het geskryf: `apt-get build-dep flamerobin` will install all the necessary packages to be able to build flamerobin from the source package. Installing the build-essential package is also a must in most cases. The reason I prefer a d

Re: [Lazarus] The perfect Linux distro for FPC and Lazarus development

2011-03-07 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Op 2011-03-07 11:06, Mark Morgan Lloyd het geskryf: however is that Debian/Ubuntu do have a fairly well-tested mechanism in place for upgrading libraries etc. when necessary, while Slackware- at least when I last looked- has to be reinstalled which is significant work.

Re: [Lazarus] The perfect Linux distro for FPC and Lazarus development

2011-03-07 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Op 2011-03-07 11:42, michael.vancann...@wisa.be het geskryf: Strange. The painless upgrades is why I switched from OpenSuSE to Ubuntu. Never had any troubles, and I am doing this since 8.04. I must admit, the last Ubuntu upgrade I tried was around 5.10 or 6.06, so a looong time ago. I guess

Re: [Lazarus] The perfect Linux distro for FPC and Lazarus development

2011-03-07 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Op 2011-03-07 11:06, Mark Morgan Lloyd het geskryf: however is that Debian/Ubuntu do have a fairly well-tested mechanism in place for upgrading libraries etc. when necessary, while Slackware- at least when I last looked- has to be reinstalled which

Re: [Lazarus] The perfect Linux distro for FPC and Lazarus development

2011-03-07 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Op 2011-03-07 11:18, Henry Vermaak het geskryf: `apt-get build-dep flamerobin` will install all the necessary packages to be able to build flamerobin from the source package. Installing the build-essential package is also a must in most cases. The reason I prefer a distro that contains everyt

Re: [Lazarus] The perfect Linux distro for FPC and Lazarus development

2011-03-07 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Op 2011-03-07 11:06, Mark Morgan Lloyd het geskryf: however is that Debian/Ubuntu do have a fairly well-tested mechanism in place for upgrading libraries etc. when necessary, while Slackware- at least when I last looked- has to be reinstalled which is significant work. I wouldn't know about OS

Re: [Lazarus] The perfect Linux distro for FPC and Lazarus development

2011-03-07 Thread Henry Vermaak
On 07/03/11 07:07, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Hi, I have been using Ubuntu since its inception. But recently I found that I have to install lots of extra packages just to compile a GTK2 or Qt application. Out of the box, Ubuntu cannot compile and link a program written with FPC either. Same proble

Re: [Lazarus] The perfect Linux distro for FPC and Lazarus development

2011-03-07 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: So if you want to use a Linux distro that just works out of the box _for programming_, I would highly recommend Slackware. It's easy to install, update and configure. Comes with a boat load of handy HOWTO documents etc. And most importantly, it comes preloaded with eve

[Lazarus] The perfect Linux distro for FPC and Lazarus development

2011-03-06 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi, I have been using Ubuntu since its inception. But recently I found that I have to install lots of extra packages just to compile a GTK2 or Qt application. Out of the box, Ubuntu cannot compile and link a program written with FPC either. Same problems with using Lazarus IDE, or even trying