Re: [Lcms-user] Workflow with LCMS

2006-08-09 Thread Frédéric Mantegazza
Le lundi 7 août 2006 12:13, Olaf Gellert a écrit : > I was thinking about doing a raw shot of some target > (lit by a 5000k light), and then maybe converting it > to TIFF and use SCARSE (www.scarse.org) or whatever. > Would that be already sufficient to get good results? > Or at least beeter than

Re: [Lcms-user] Workflow with LCMS

2006-08-07 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, Hal V. Engel wrote: On Saturday 05 August 2006 10:20, Frédéric wrote: On Saturday 05 August 2006 18:33, Hal V. Engel wrote: I am not so sure that images in GIMP are "edited in sRGB colorspace". You are right: I forgot that Gimp let the user choose working colorspace... Bu

Re: [Lcms-user] Workflow with LCMS

2006-08-07 Thread Hal V. Engel
One other comment about workflows. CUPS 1.2 has the ability to handle 16 bit data where as CUPS 1.x only handles 8 bit color data. Also CUPS 1.2 has the ability to do color space conversions using ICC profiles. Version 1.2 is still beta so it will be a while before this is commonly available.

Re: [Lcms-user] Workflow with LCMS

2006-08-07 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Monday 07 August 2006 03:54, Frédéric wrote: > Le lundi 7 août 2006 12:13, Olaf Gellert a écrit : > > I was thinking about doing a raw shot of some target > > (lit by a 5000k light), and then maybe converting it > > to TIFF and use SCARSE (www.scarse.org) or whatever. > > Would that be already s

Re: [Lcms-user] Workflow with LCMS

2006-08-07 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Monday 07 August 2006 05:27, Cory Papenfuss wrote: > > (lit by a 5000k light), and then maybe converting it > > to TIFF and use SCARSE (www.scarse.org) or whatever. > > Would that be already sufficient to get good results? > > Or at least beeter than sRGB? Not sure about it... > > > > It seems t

Re: [Lcms-user] Workflow with LCMS

2006-08-07 Thread Cory Papenfuss
> (lit by a 5000k light), and then maybe converting it > to TIFF and use SCARSE (www.scarse.org) or whatever. > Would that be already sufficient to get good results? > Or at least beeter than sRGB? Not sure about it... > > It seems that it is still not too common for manufacturers > of cameras to

Re: [Lcms-user] Workflow with LCMS

2006-08-07 Thread Andreas Yankopolus
> Shooting in raw does not need to select white balance! This is the > intersting thing in raw files. All is done in post-process. Another interesting thing about shooting RAW is that the in-camera color space setting doesn't matter. The data gets assigned to a color space during raw convers

Re: [Lcms-user] Workflow with LCMS

2006-08-07 Thread Frédéric
Le lundi 7 août 2006 12:13, Olaf Gellert a écrit : > I was thinking about doing a raw shot of some target > (lit by a 5000k light), and then maybe converting it > to TIFF and use SCARSE (www.scarse.org) or whatever. > Would that be already sufficient to get good results? > Or at least beeter than

Re: [Lcms-user] Workflow with LCMS

2006-08-07 Thread Olaf Gellert
Hi, Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote: > I am about releasing a R2400 Cmyk ICC profile created with standard > materials for usage with Gutenprint/CinePaint(Photoprint?) if thats a > option. Very much appreciated by me. Even if I decided not to buy the R2400, it will still help others. Thanxs, a very res

Re: [Lcms-user] Workflow with LCMS

2006-08-07 Thread Olaf Gellert
Hi, Frédéric wrote: > Well, you do not need to assign a profile to your jpeg file; your camera has > already did the job when converting raw into jpeg, in the sRGB colorspace. Ok, so I am always reduced to sRGB with JPEG. Well, was thinking about getting a DSLR anyway (because F8.0 on the fixed

Re: [Lcms-user] Workflow with LCMS

2006-08-07 Thread Frédéric
Le lundi 7 août 2006 11:40, Olaf Gellert a écrit : > I need to assign a profile to the image when I imported it > from my camera. Right now I am using a Sony F828, mainly > JPEG format (and RAW only for infrared images until now). > So I have to get or create an ICC profile for this camera. > To m

Re: [Lcms-user] Workflow with LCMS

2006-08-07 Thread Kai-Uwe Behrmann
Am 07.08.06, 11:40 +0200 schrieb Olaf Gellert: > Maybe a bit off topic for this forum: What printer driver > to use (with Linux)? I am thinking of getting a Canon PIXMA > Pro 9500 (when it comes out later this year) or an Epson > R2400... I guess I might have a look at something like > Gutenprint?

Re: [Lcms-user] Workflow with LCMS

2006-08-07 Thread Olaf Gellert
Hi all, thanks a lot for all your feedack and your answers. I am impressed. :-) To sum up this a little bit and ask some follow up questions: Using GIMP 2.3 devel I can at least process images in a color managed workflow (and even better with cinepaint, with a reduced set of funtions for image pr

Re: [Lcms-user] Workflow with LCMS

2006-08-05 Thread Frédéric
On Saturday 05 August 2006 19:53, Hal V. Engel wrote: > same size and shape as BetaRGB.  BetaRGB has a gamut that is almost > twice as large as sRGB (69% of Lab vs. 35% of Lab).  So this gives you Well, this is mathematically true, but not so much in human perception. The differences are in extr

Re: [Lcms-user] Workflow with LCMS

2006-08-05 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Saturday 05 August 2006 10:20, Frédéric wrote: > On Saturday 05 August 2006 18:33, Hal V. Engel wrote: > > I am not so sure that images in GIMP are "edited in sRGB colorspace". > > You are right: I forgot that Gimp let the user choose working colorspace... > But as you explain later, Gimp is not

Re: [Lcms-user] Workflow with LCMS

2006-08-05 Thread Frédéric
On Saturday 05 August 2006 18:33, Hal V. Engel wrote: > I am not so sure that images in GIMP are "edited in sRGB colorspace". You are right: I forgot that Gimp let the user choose working colorspace... But as you explain later, Gimp is not able to read embedded profiles. So you have to choose t

Re: [Lcms-user] Workflow with LCMS

2006-08-05 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Saturday 05 August 2006 00:19, Frédéric wrote: > On Saturday 05 August 2006 00:35, Olaf Gellert wrote: > > [I'ill try to answer you, according to what I understand about color > management. I may do some mistakes, so please, wait for a guru answer ;o). > My answer is an exercise to me. My apolog

Re: [Lcms-user] Workflow with LCMS

2006-08-05 Thread Frédéric
On Saturday 05 August 2006 00:35, Olaf Gellert wrote: [I'ill try to answer you, according to what I understand about color management. I may do some mistakes, so please, wait for a guru answer ;o). My answer is an exercise to me. My apologizes if there are mistakes]. > I am working on my photos

Re: [Lcms-user] Workflow with LCMS

2006-08-05 Thread Kai-Uwe Behrmann
Olaf, all, what you showed in your email, can be done on the commandline. But most users prefere GUI's for such tasks. Your calibration is a good start. Why not using a open source GUI application, which supports colour management: http://www.behrmann.name/index.php?option=com_weblinks&catid=6

[Lcms-user] Workflow with LCMS

2006-08-04 Thread Olaf Gellert
Hi, just for me to make sure that I understand, what I have to do to get fotos printed with intended colors: I am working on my photos (usually with GIMP) on a calibrated display (NEC2180 + Eye-One). When I edited a photo to my pleasure, I guess this is what I will have to do: - Save the image w