Re: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-14 Thread A. Rick Anderson
Justin Findlay wrote: On 4/14/06, Justin Findlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: $ echo "text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -dump '%s'; copiousoutput; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html" >> ~/.mailcap $ echo "auto_view text/html" >> ~/.muttrc $ mutt Yeah . That's intuitively obvious. (!) -- A.

Re: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-14 Thread Charles Fry
> $ echo "text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -dump '%s'; copiousoutput; > description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html" >> ~/.mailcap > $ echo "auto_view text/html" ~/.muttrc > $ mutt You must be kidding me. lynx is all kinds of weak. Why not use a real text browser like elinks or w3m? Charles -- Drive li

Re: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-14 Thread Justin Findlay
On 4/14/06, Justin Findlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > $ echo "text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -dump '%s'; copiousoutput; > description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html" >> ~/.mailcap > $ echo "auto_view text/html" >> ~/.muttrc > $ mutt ___ Ldsoss mailing list L

Re: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-14 Thread Justin Findlay
On 4/14/06, Erin Sharmahd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 11:15:29AM -0600, Paul Penrod wrote: > > > > > > > > > > GAH! That's about as far as I got in this email. I'm sure some great > points were made in this email, but I'm just not willing to parse > through the html

Re: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-14 Thread Erin Sharmahd
On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 11:15:29AM -0600, Paul Penrod wrote: > > > > GAH! That's about as far as I got in this email. I'm sure some great points were made in this email, but I'm just not willing to parse through the html to get to the content. There should be an easy way to switch the ema

Re: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-14 Thread Paul Penrod
e -Original Message- From: Shane Hathaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LDS Open Source Software Cc: 'Jay Askren' Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ... Steven H. McCown wrote: I just found it inte

RE: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-14 Thread Steven H. McCown
9:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LDS Open Source Software Cc: Jay Askren Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ... > We seem to live in a world of ridiculous extremes . where are the 'happy > mediums'? Keeping their heads down. Most moderates are viewed with suspicion by

RE: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-14 Thread Steven H. McCown
le to reach it if we don't try to find it... Steve -Original Message- From: Shane Hathaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LDS Open Source Software Cc: 'Jay Askren' Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

Re: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-14 Thread Alan Young
> We seem to live in a world of ridiculous extremes … where are the 'happy > mediums'? Keeping their heads down. Most moderates are viewed with suspicion by everyone else because they have--from both sides perspective--thrown in with the other lot. Not a safe place to be, in someone's crossfire.

Re: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-13 Thread Shane Hathaway
Steven H. McCown wrote: I just found it interesting that with all the talk about how bad some perceive patents, that the church would find them palatable enough to solicit them. From the page, it sounded like the church would keep them and profit from them. Someone once asked me to show them th

RE: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-13 Thread Steven H. McCown
re Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...   Of course if we had a software patent in an area where we were planning to do more work, giving the patent away would mean we could no longer use our idea which would make us dislike patents even more.  So it doesn't seem like this

Re: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-13 Thread Thomas Haws
1 > Statistically, > if you get a ping of inspiration, it has been shown to occur to > approximately 4000+ other people. 2 > ...A patent only gives ... the opportunity for a limited financial > monopoly ... before you have competition. 3 > Entire > industries can rise and > fall within the lifet

Re: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-13 Thread Paul Penrod
There is one thing wrong with your premise. To give something away, you have to own it first. Where do you think the good idea came from? Where I have an issue with software and abstract patents is that no one idea is unique. Statistically, if you get a ping of inspiration, it has been shown

Re: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-13 Thread Jay Askren
Of course if we had a software patent in an area where we were planning to do more work, giving the patent away would mean we could no longer use our idea which would make us dislike patents even more.  So it doesn't seem like this would be a good idea if we had a patent that came from our open sou

RE: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-12 Thread Steven H. McCown
For those of you who dislike patents, but happen to have them, here is a website that you are sure to enjoy: (http://www.lds.org/ldsfoundation/ways/assets/0,8115,479-1-0-9-p,00.html) >From the date, it looks like it was released today... Steve ___ L

Re: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-10 Thread V. B. Hunt
Justin Findlay wrote: On 4/10/06, V. B. Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Steven H. McCown wrote: I've found it difficult to understand why some have started to dislike patents so intensely -- when they have been a tenant of US business society for 100's of years. The kinds of

Re: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-10 Thread Justin Findlay
On 4/10/06, V. B. Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steven H. McCown wrote: > > I've found it difficult to understand why some have started to dislike > > patents so intensely -- when they have been a tenant of US business society > > for 100's of years. The kinds of corruption and extortion tha

Re: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-10 Thread V. B. Hunt
Steven H. McCown wrote: I've found it difficult to understand why some have started to dislike patents so intensely -- when they have been a tenant of US business society for 100's of years. This article (http://www.paulgraham.com/softwarepatents.html) helped me understand the other side of t

RE: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-10 Thread Dallan Quass
as Haws > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 10:58 AM > To: Steven H. McCown; LDS Open Source Software > Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ... > > The other day I had one of those Big Ideas (for a > mass-produced solar cooker gadget) and my thoughts > automatically

Re: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-10 Thread Shane Hathaway
Thomas Haws wrote: The other day I had one of those Big Ideas (for a mass-produced solar cooker gadget) and my thoughts automatically started to go down the Patent path. I had to correct myself by remembering that any innovation I introduce is for the whole world (to glorify the Father) and not

Re: [Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-10 Thread Thomas Haws
The other day I had one of those Big Ideas (for a mass-produced solar cooker gadget) and my thoughts automatically started to go down the Patent path. I had to correct myself by remembering that any innovation I introduce is for the whole world (to glorify the Father) and not for my own benefit.

[Ldsoss] Dare I say it ... patents ...

2006-04-10 Thread Steven H. McCown
I've found it difficult to understand why some have started to dislike patents so intensely -- when they have been a tenant of US business society for 100's of years. This article (http://www.paulgraham.com/softwarepatents.html) helped me understand the other side of the argeument -- which is g