Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-17 Thread Dale Long
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: > That wouldn't take that much. I've recompiled almost everything at > least once. Next step is to create a LRP directory which contains > everything, including options used to compile, etc. Then a diff file > would be created, so that a generic packag

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-17 Thread David Douthitt
Andrew Hoying wrote: > We could develop a nice xml/xslt interface to it all that would be easy to > parse, sort and categorize. It makes a lot of sense, but would require > updating a lot of old packages to include the .desc file. That wouldn't take that much. I've recompiled almost everything

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-17 Thread Andrew Hoying
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: > > I suggested (earlier) that we use a .desc file with tags. It could > > contain all SORTS of things, and becomes extensible in a scary sort of > > way. All sorts of descriptions could be in there: > > > > * version > > * full package name > > * pac

Re: [Leaf-devel] Using a new shell for linuxrc?

2001-07-17 Thread David Douthitt
Dale Long wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: > > What do you think of using lua for writing /linuxrc? Anyone here have > > experience in lua? > > I like lua and am currently learning it. It has advantages that it is a > clean syntax, good for configuration files and configur

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-17 Thread David Douthitt
Jack Coates wrote: > Now that would rock :-) especially if one could simply snarf/apkg the > packages into place from sourceforge.net. Major potential for security > risk, but there are ways to work it out. Couldn't one use scp to copy from SourceForge to the local LEAF box? Might require full

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-17 Thread Dale Long
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: > I suggested (earlier) that we use a .desc file with tags. It could > contain all SORTS of things, and becomes extensible in a scary sort of > way. All sorts of descriptions could be in there: > > * version > * full package name > * packager > * compi

Re: [Leaf-devel] Using a new shell for linuxrc?

2001-07-17 Thread David Douthitt
David Douthitt wrote: > > I was pondering this, wondering if there was another language other than > /bin/ash which had more power in less space. This is what I've found: > > ash 100k > lua 79k > What do you think of using lua for writing /linuxrc? Anyone here have > experience in l

Re: [Leaf-devel] Using a new shell for linuxrc?

2001-07-17 Thread Dale Long
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: > I was pondering this, wondering if there was another language other than > /bin/ash which had more power in less space. This is what I've found: > > ash 100k > rc -- requires libncurses, libreadline > esh -- requires libreadline, libtermc

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-17 Thread Jack Coates
On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Dale Long wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: > > Perhaps LEAF can adopt the Debian classification system (free and > > non-free, etc.) and classify packages that way? > > I would be interested in seeing an LRP package repositry, similar to say > CPAN in forma

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-17 Thread David Douthitt
Dale Long wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: > > Perhaps LEAF can adopt the Debian classification system (free and > > non-free, etc.) and classify packages that way? > > I would be interested in seeing an LRP package repositry, similar to say > CPAN in format, with version in

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-17 Thread Dale Long
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: > Perhaps LEAF can adopt the Debian classification system (free and > non-free, etc.) and classify packages that way? I would be interested in seeing an LRP package repositry, similar to say CPAN in format, with version information and so on. At the momm

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-17 Thread Jack Coates
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: > With the addition of tcpserver and tcprules to the ever growing list of > packages, I went and looked at their licensing (always of interest). I > was dismayed to find out it was under the same licensing as the other > djb tools (I didn't realize that

Re: [Leaf-devel] IP Aliasing with iproute2

2001-07-17 Thread Andrew Hoying
When I do IP aliasing, I can simply type: ip addr add x.x.x.x/x brd x.x.x.x scope global dev ethx If you want to name it, like eth0:0 then you do: ip addr add x.x.x.x/x brd x.x.x.x scope global label ethx:x dev ethx If it is the first ip address it sets it up as primary, the second and so one

Re: [Leaf-devel] IP Aliasing with iproute2

2001-07-17 Thread Andrew Hoying
When I do IP aliasing, I can simply type: ip addr add x.x.x.x/x brd x.x.x.x scope global dev ethx If you want to name it, like eth0:0 then you do: ip addr add x.x.x.x/x brd x.x.x.x scope global label ethx:x dev ethx If it is the first ip address it sets it up as primary, the second and so one

[Leaf-devel] IP Aliasing with iproute2

2001-07-17 Thread David Douthitt
I can't believe I'm not finding this I thought someone had mentioned how to do it. I thought I did it, but it didn't work. All I want to do is add a new IP address to an existing interface, and then use the knowledge of how to do it to incorporate it easily into /etc/network.conf and /etc/i

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-17 Thread David Douthitt
Andrew Hoying wrote: > > David Douthitt wrote: > > LEAF, in my mind, consists of two distributions - or at least, sponsors > > them - Eigerstein and Oxygen. > > I agree, but both have the same foundation, so I think of them more like sub > distributions, like how Mandrakesoft has the standard M

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-17 Thread jdnewmil
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Andrew Hoying wrote: > David Douthitt wrote: > > > Andrew Hoying wrote: [...] > > Using vfat instead of msdos is another possibility... for longer > > filenames. > > I'm a big proponent of moving to VFat, we'll just have to find a new small > boot loader. We do? Why not

[Leaf-devel] Using a new shell for linuxrc?

2001-07-17 Thread David Douthitt
I was pondering this, wondering if there was another language other than /bin/ash which had more power in less space. This is what I've found: ash 100k rc -- requires libncurses, libreadline esh -- requires libreadline, libtermcap eforth 12k (static) lua 79k es -- won't

[Leaf-devel] Web site uploaded

2001-07-17 Thread Andrew Hoying
Not really news, but I uploaded a basic site to http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/wolffang with links to my various packages and their home pages, as well as more in depth directions on upgrading to kernel 2.4.5. Andrew Hoying ___ Leaf-devel mailing l

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-17 Thread Andrew Hoying
David Douthitt wrote: > Andrew Hoying wrote: > > > > I guess by making these packages available for download, the LEAF project's > > various LRP variants are technically a distribution. > > LEAF, in my mind, consists of two distributions - or at least, sponsors > them - Eigerstein and Oxygen. I

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-17 Thread David Douthitt
Andrew Hoying wrote: > > I guess by making these packages available for download, the LEAF project's > various LRP variants are technically a distribution. LEAF, in my mind, consists of two distributions - or at least, sponsors them - Eigerstein and Oxygen. > However as more people begin using

Re: [Leaf-devel] New User Interface Tool: Breakthrough!

2001-07-17 Thread David Douthitt
John Ridout wrote: > > You had it easy. > I used to load programs from audio cassettes with my ZX81. > I was a power user though, I had a 16k RAM pack. Bah. That Apple II (6MHz CP/M coprocessor, 4Mhz accelerated Apple CPU) came in later years. I remember loading Applesoft in 48K RAM via casset

[Leaf-devel] [ leaf-Patches-xxxxxx ]

2001-07-17 Thread Mike Noyes
Everyone, Are we now using our patch manager for all package submissions regardless of who creates them? Or, are we still only requiring contributors to use the patch manager? I can see benefits either way, so I'm just asking for clarification. Thanks. -- Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://

[Leaf-devel] New...Kernel 2.4.5 with Oxygen May 2001 diff package.

2001-07-17 Thread Andrew Hoying
Now available at http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/wolffang/kernel_2.4.5 is my compiled and tested 2.4.5 kernel. >From the readme file I placed there: -- This directory contains everything you'll need to get started with kernel 2.4.5 under the Oxygen May 2001 release. Files: kern24x.lrp - This

[Leaf-devel] [ leaf-Patches-442127 ] New program created and packaged: ipmask

2001-07-17 Thread noreply
Patches item #442127, was opened at 2001-07-17 12:22 You can respond by visiting: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=313751&aid=442127&group_id=13751 Category: packages Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: David Douthitt (ddouthitt) Assigned to: Nobod

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-17 Thread David Douthitt
Mike Noyes wrote: > > Andrew Hoying, 2001-07-17 08:36 -0600 > >I guess by making these packages available for download, the LEAF > >project's various LRP variants are technically a distribution. We don't, > >however, have anyone at the present time auditing the variety of packages > >now availabl

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-17 Thread Jacques Nilo
Le Mardi 17 Juillet 2001 16:18, vous avez écrit : > David: > > Ug. DJB is a bright guy, and I'm a big fan of qmail, > but...he's apparently at war with RedHat (and other major > distro's) who I guess have slighted him by not incorporating > his stuff into their releases under his terms. >

[Leaf-devel] Licensing on ucspi-tcp tools

2001-07-17 Thread Andrew Hoying
Hello, I am a developer for the LEAF project at http://leaf.sourceforge.net. We are currently expanding the packages available for LEAF and would like to include the ucspi-tcp tools as part of that. However we recognize that your license does not permit us to distribute these tools in binary form

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-17 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
> Has anyone contacted DJB? He may be willing to make an exception for the > LEAF project, or even create packages himself. E-mails I sent regarding his licensing for djbdns went unanswered. Charles Steinkuehler http://lrp.steinkuehler.net http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror) __

RE: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-17 Thread Mike Noyes
Andrew Hoying, 2001-07-17 08:36 -0600 >I guess by making these packages available for download, the LEAF >project's various LRP variants are technically a distribution. We don't, >however, have anyone at the present time auditing the variety of packages >now available for LRP variants from a va

RE: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-17 Thread Andrew Hoying
I guess by making these packages available for download, the LEAF project's various LRP variants are technically a distribution. We don't, however, have anyone at the present time auditing the variety of packages now available for LRP variants from a variety of sources on the web. Perhaps we need

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-17 Thread Scott C. Best
David: Ug. DJB is a bright guy, and I'm a big fan of qmail, but...he's apparently at war with RedHat (and other major distro's) who I guess have slighted him by not incorporating his stuff into their releases under his terms. From what I could pull out of his FAQ page for "distr

[Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-17 Thread David Douthitt
With the addition of tcpserver and tcprules to the ever growing list of packages, I went and looked at their licensing (always of interest). I was dismayed to find out it was under the same licensing as the other djb tools (I didn't realize that these were one of them). According to his page htt

RE: [Leaf-devel] New User Interface Tool: Breakthrough!

2001-07-17 Thread Dale Long
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, John Ridout wrote: > You had it easy. > I used to load programs from audio cassettes with my ZX81. > I was a power user though, I had a 16k RAM pack. Some of the most fantastic crashes I have seen with those or overheating ULA's. :-) The old wobbly RAM pack. :-) The Spectru

RE: [Leaf-devel] New User Interface Tool: Breakthrough!

2001-07-17 Thread John Ridout
You had it easy. I used to load programs from audio cassettes with my ZX81. I was a power user though, I had a 16k RAM pack. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David > Douthitt > Sent: 17 July 2001 11:01 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subjec

Re: [Leaf-devel] New User Interface Tool: Breakthrough!

2001-07-17 Thread David Douthitt
Matthew Schalit wrote: > > Ray Olszewski wrote: > > > > At 08:37 AM 7/13/01 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: > > > > > >> Hilton Travis wrote: > > >> > > >> > Are those the 8" floppy disks? > > > > > >I think the 8" floppy disks never held more than