Re: [Leaf-devel] Using a new shell for linuxrc?

2001-07-18 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
snip All of this is part of an effort to shrink root.lrp; I've already removed /var/spool/cron (to a new cron.lrp) and much of /sbin to init.lrp What do you think of using lua for writing /linuxrc? Anyone here have experience in lua? I'm about to dive in headlong :-) I still

Re: [Leaf-devel] Using a new shell for linuxrc?

2001-07-18 Thread David Douthitt
Charles Steinkuehler wrote: I still haven't looked at lua, so I don't know how it would work for /linuxrc. I've been figuring on working to build a busybox sh based /linuxrc, possibly statically linked against a stripped ulibc, and see how small a boot-strap lrp could be made. Root.lrp

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
David Douthitt, 2001-07-17 23:34 -0400 Andrew Hoying wrote: We could develop a nice xml/xslt interface to it all that would be easy to parse, sort and categorize. It makes a lot of sense, but would require updating a lot of old packages to include the .desc file. That wouldn't take that

RE: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Andrew Hoying
David, There is already a packages directory specifically for this purpose. I'd like packages that are placed in it to have ownership set to yourname.leaf and permissions set to 664. You can scp files into it at: /home/groups/l/le/leaf/pub/packages One question, how should we include the

RE: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
Andrew Hoying, 2001-07-18 08:15 -0600 David, There is already a packages directory specifically for this purpose. I'd like packages that are placed in it to have ownership set to yourname.leaf and permissions set to 664. You can scp files into it at:

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
Dale Long, 2001-07-18 12:33 +0930 On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: Perhaps LEAF can adopt the Debian classification system (free and non-free, etc.) and classify packages that way? I would be interested in seeing an LRP package repositry, similar to say CPAN in format, with

RE: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Andrew Hoying
Andrew, Good question. I think that is a good idea. Rick started doing this very thing for David's Oxygen packages, but he was unable to keep up with David's production. Thank you. Does anyone have a better idea? If there are no objections, text files in the format specified below should

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Jack Coates
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: Jack Coates wrote: Now that would rock :-) especially if one could simply snarf/apkg the packages into place from sourceforge.net. Major potential for security risk, but there are ways to work it out. Couldn't one use scp to copy from

RE: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
Andrew Hoying, 2001-07-18 09:02 -0600 One other question, how are we going to resolve package name disputes, like two different versions of the same package? Should we create an archive subfolder for old versions? Or a glibc2.1 subfolder for the new development work David is doing? Or we could

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
Everyone, I forgot to mention this. When creating new sub directories in the packages tree, set the ownership to yourname.leaf and the permissions to 2664. Thanks. Mike Noyes, 2001-07-18 07:05 -0700 There is already a packages directory specifically for this purpose. I'd like packages that

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread David Douthitt
Mike Noyes wrote: Good question. I think that is a good idea. Rick started doing this very thing for David's Oxygen packages, but he was unable to keep up with David's production. Does anyone have a better idea? If there are no objections, text files in the format specified below should

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread David Douthitt
Mike Noyes wrote: David Douthitt, 2001-07-17 23:34 -0400 Andrew Hoying wrote: We could develop a nice xml/xslt interface to it all that would be easy to parse, sort and categorize. It makes a lot of sense, but would require updating a lot of old packages to include the .desc file.

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
David Douthitt, 2001-07-18 11:54 -0400 Mike Noyes wrote: Good question. I think that is a good idea. Rick started doing this very thing for David's Oxygen packages, but he was unable to keep up with David's production. Does anyone have a better idea? If there are no objections, text

Re: Subjects (was Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb))

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2001-07-18 10:44 -0700 grumble... content... grumble... subject... grumble... price of matzoh balls in china... asleep at the keyboard... [... discussion of helpfile formats omitted ...] ;) Jeff, Thanks for the first chuckle of the day. :) I gather we should change the

RE: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Andrew Hoying
Forgot about the line wrapping of e-mail, and also cleaned up a few things I saw right as I hit send... That script should read: #!/bin/sh cd $PACKAGES for i in *.lrp do tar xzf $i var/lib/lrpkg cd var/lib/lrpkg rootpkg=`echo $i|sed 's/.lrp//'` [ -f $rootpkg.version ] mv $rootpkg.help \

RE: [Leaf-devel] pub/packages directory structure

2001-07-18 Thread Andrew Hoying
Andrew, I'm not very good at writing shell scripts, but I belive your modifications give us version information also. I have one addition that I think makes sense. Add umask 220 before the first cd command. This will grantee the correct permissions on the generated files. Should we

Re: [Leaf-devel] FAQ update: Why does the DocManager...

2001-07-18 Thread jdnewmil
On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: Everyone, Please take a look at the new proposed format for our DocManager documents. I don't want to start modifying the rest of our FAQs until I get some feedback on this format. Thanks. Why does the DocManager...

Re: [Leaf-devel] FAQ update: Why does the DocManager...

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2001-07-18 12:16 -0700 On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: Everyone, Please take a look at the new proposed format for our DocManager documents. I don't want to start modifying the rest of our FAQs until I get some feedback on this format. Thanks. Requiring

Re: [Leaf-devel] FAQ update: Why does the DocManager...

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2001-07-18 12:16 -0700 On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: Everyone, Please take a look at the new proposed format for our DocManager documents. I don't want to start modifying the rest of our FAQs until I get some feedback on this format. Thanks. Why does the

[Leaf-devel] Script for generating Web Archives

2001-07-18 Thread David Douthitt
Look at this. I tried to do this in /bin/sh, but fought with scoping rules too long - I thought everything was global! I was wrong... both /bin/sh and /bin/ksh did the same. So I switched to Lua 4.0. Here is the code: http://leaf.sourceforge.net/pub/oxygen/webdesc Here is the source *.desc

[Leaf-devel] 5.25 inch SBCs

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Sensney
This company has a variety of Crusoe and socket 370 5.25 SBCs, CPU cards, 1U cases, MicroPCI cards and a number of other components. http://www.ibase-i.com.tw/products.htm

Re: [Leaf-devel] Using a new shell for linuxrc?

2001-07-18 Thread Dale Long
On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: Brings up a question - like busybox, lua (the interpreter) is extensible - I mean, via libraries and code and such. So now, on my system or around here I have: 1. Lua 2. Lua + POSIXLibrary (poslib) 3. Lua + POSIX Library + Lua sockets (network

Re: [Leaf-devel] Script for generating Web Archives

2001-07-18 Thread Dale Long
On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: Look at this. I tried to do this in /bin/sh, but fought with scoping rules too long - I thought everything was global! I was wrong... both /bin/sh and /bin/ksh did the same. So I switched to Lua 4.0. Will lua add to the size of Oxygen or will

Site backup/mirror (was: Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb))

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
Subject changed to: Site backup/mirror Dale Long, 2001-07-19 10:20 +0930 On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: I'm working on a mirroring solution, but I haven't completed it yet. I listed the areas that would need to be duplicated for a mirror. The current storage requirements are