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Send Leaf-user mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Leaf-user digest..." Today's Topics: 1. QOS in Dachstein?? (Christopher Holmes) 2. Re: QOS in Dachstein?? (Michael D. Schleif) 3. Re: DCD & java ??? (Matt Schalit) 4. Re: QOS in Dachstein?? (Jack Coates) 5. Re: Confused about eth2 ROUTES - update (Victor McAllister) 6. Re: DCD & java ??? (Mark Plowman) 7. changing internal subnet addrs on Dachstein (Christopher Holmes) 8. Re: DCD & java ??? (Michael Leone) 9. Re: changing internal subnet addrs on Dachstein (Michael D. Schleif) 10. Re: DCD & java ??? (Jack Coates) 11. Re: DCD & java ??? (Jack Coates) 12. Re: dialup with leaf - how? (Larry Platzek) 13. Re: DCD & java ??? (Michael D. Schleif) 14. Hardware router Linux look-alike (Stewart Adey) 15. Re: Hardware router Linux look-alike (guitarlynn) --__--__-- Message: 1 Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Christopher Holmes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 15:31:06 -0500 Subject: [Leaf-user] QOS in Dachstein?? Is there any kind of QOS built into Dachstein? I noticed a fairq chain in the packet fileter rules. Thanks, Chris --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 15:23:11 -0600 From: "Michael D. Schleif" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: mds resource To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] QOS in Dachstein?? Christopher Holmes wrote: > > Is there any kind of QOS built into Dachstein? I noticed a fairq chain in > the packet fileter rules. # grep -i 'qos\|fairq' /etc/network.conf # Simple QoS/fair queueing support eth0_FAIRQ=NO # Complex QoS - Enable all of these + above to turn it on eth1_FAIRQ=NO #eth2_FAIRQ=NO # Simple QoS support #fr498_FAIRQ=YES # Complex FR QoS - Enable ALL of these + above to turn it on #ppp_FAIRQ=YES # fairq chain CLS_FAIRQ="${MRK_CRIT}_89_0/0 ${MRK_CRIT}_udp_0/0_route ${MRK_CRIT}_tcp_0/0_bgp ${MRK_CRIT}_tcp_0/0_domain ${MRK_CRIT}_udp_0/0_domain ${MRK_IA}_tcp_0/0_telnet ${MRK_IA}_tcp_0/0_ssh" eval local FAIRQ=\${"$1"_FAIRQ:-""} ip_frQoS $1 ip_QoS $1 # Clean up any QoS/fair queuing stuff ip_QoSclear $1 # QoS/Fariqueing functions ip_QoSclear () { ip_frQoS () { eval local FAIRQ=\${"$1"_FAIRQ:-""} if [ "$FAIRQ" != "YES" -a "$FAIRQ" != "Yes" -a "$FAIRQ" != "yes" ] ip_QoS () { eval local FAIRQ=\${"$1"_FAIRQ:-""} if [ -z "$FAIRQ" -a -n "$2" ]; then local FAIRQ=$2 if [ "$FAIRQ" != "YES" -a "$FAIRQ" != "Yes" -a "$FAIRQ" != "yes" ] -- Best Regards, mds mds resource 888.250.3987 Dare to fix things before they break . . . Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we think we know. The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . . --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 13:33:03 -0800 From: Matt Schalit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] DCD & java ??? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack Coates wrote: > Is there interest in massive applications in general? Massive but not rediculous. Perl and java are useful but large. A LEAF box with them gets closer and closer to being a full distro, minus the x-windows. Certainly the user would need a cdrom based LEAF. I'd like to see java2, but only the jre. God only knows how well that'll work on a crippled Linux box :) > The appliance-friendly nature of LEAF makes one think yes, > but then the limitations of RAM disk, glibc, etc... Yes, reinventing the wheel is bogus, and that's what happens when we try to pack everything from a full distro into a LEAF. > At any rate, I've just uploaded my 3.2 MB postfix.lrp to > the www.monkeynoodle.org packages repository. If I get a chance today > I'll see if a JRE will compile too :-) Well that's 3.2MB of _something_, I don't know what :) You might be interested in j2me. That's the Java2 Micro Edition targeted at embedded systems like color pda's and cell phones with limited memory and space. http://java.sun.com/j2me/ It's like Java2 minus the swing and awt stuff. Might work well for people. I'm busy writing full blown java2 apps, but once I learn those, I may poke around with j2me also. Regards, Matthew --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 14:12:01 -0800 (PST) From: Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michael D. Schleif" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] QOS in Dachstein?? On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Michael D. Schleif wrote: > <snip config areas> > There's also some modules and tools required, see http://www.monkeynoodle.org/lrp/LRP-QoS-HOWTO.html for more. It still needs updating for DS. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 14:26:47 -0800 From: Victor McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] Confused about eth2 ROUTES - update Scott Sandeman-Allen wrote: > Well, after reading the scripts over again a few more times, I have > found an example: > > eth2_ROUTES="1.1.1.3 2.2.2.0/24_via1.1.1.18" > > Now I have to figure out how this _really_ works because so far, > there is no reference as to which IP & network represents what. What > is presently confusing me is how an IP can be expressed within a /24 > of a different network... I'm sure it _will_ make sense at some point > ;-) > > I'll continue to dig as I always do but I would gratefully accept any clues. > > Thanks for any assistance, > > Scott > > >I'm trying to configure the 3rd NIC in my Dachstein LRP box and I > >cannot find many docs regarding ROUTES. What I am confused about is > >which networks this relates to. I'm thinking it should be the eth2 > >net and the eth0 (external) net. > > > >For example. If my > > > >eth0 is at 75.75.25.7 & 255.255.252.0 therefore it is 75.75.25.0/22 > > > >and eth2 is 192.168.2.252 & 255.255.255.0 therefore it is 192.168.2.0/24 > > > >So, do I enter > > > >ROUTES="192.168.2.0/24 75.75.25.0/22" > > > >or have I missed something somewhere? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Scott Just a couple of quotes culled from past email from Charles, ------- Add them to ethN_ROUTES, where ethN is the appropriate ethernet interface: ethN_ROUTES="192.168.2/24_via_192.168.1.254 192.168.3/24_via_192.168.1.254" ----- another Charles example eth2_ROUTES="192.168.129/24_via_192.168.131.2 192.168.129.128/26_via_192.168.131.2 207.195.73.128/26_via_192.168.131.2 192.168.140/24_via_192.168.131.2 192.168.132/24_via_192.168.131.2" Make the changes to /etc/network.conf, run "net reload", and verify the interface configuraiton and routing tables are what you want using "ip addr" and "ip route". ------- By the way the search feature is working now on the leaf list. not sure if this will help --__--__-- Message: 6 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Mark Plowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] DCD & java ??? Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 23:31:43 +0100 (CET) Jack, > From: Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 12:09:56 -0800 (PST) <snip> > At any rate, I've just uploaded my 3.2 MB postfix.lrp to the > www.monkeynoodle.org packages repository. Glad to see a *nice* Mailer Server from a *friendly* author get onto LEAF, but how do you run Postfix without *persistent* mail queue i.e. no hard disk? I am still of the opinion that LEAF is a floppy based firewall/router/network connectivity "thing" and *not* an appliance server, but then I am still running Eigerstien from a floppy instead of Dachstein from a CD ("if it ain't broke, don't fix it")! Just my 2 cents ;-) Greetings Mark --__--__-- Message: 7 Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Christopher Holmes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 17:34:12 -0500 Subject: [Leaf-user] changing internal subnet addrs on Dachstein I just changed the internal network address on my Dachstein box. I changed the 192.168.1.xx to 192.168.5.xx in... /etc/dhcpd.conf /etc/network.conf /etc/sh-httpd.conf /etc/ipfilter.conf looked OK as-is. I backed up packages etc, dhcpd, & weblet. Everything works fine except I can't get the weblet page to display. What did I miss? Chris --__--__-- Message: 8 Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] DCD & java ??? From: Michael Leone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LEAF-User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 03 Feb 2002 17:40:44 -0500 On Sun, 2002-02-03 at 17:31, Mark Plowman wrote: > I am still of the opinion that LEAF is a floppy based > firewall/router/network connectivity "thing" and *not* an appliance > server, but then I am still running Eigerstien from a floppy instead > of Dachstein from a CD ("if it ain't broke, don't fix it")! I run Dachstein from a floppy and no hard drive. DS has a better kernel, and somewhat easier network scripts, etc. So yeah, you can run it in exactly the same way as Eigerstein. I am. :-) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael J. Leone Registered Linux user #201348 <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ: 50453890 AIM: MikeLeone PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF PGP public key: <http://www.mike-leone.com/~turgon/turgon-public-key.gpg> "Sometimes your lack of sympathy gets hard to explain, So on your mask of make-up you just paint a little parody of pain" "When you were young", Del Amitri --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 16:45:12 -0600 From: "Michael D. Schleif" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: mds resource To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] changing internal subnet addrs on Dachstein Christopher Holmes wrote: > > I just changed the internal network address on my Dachstein box. > > I changed the 192.168.1.xx to 192.168.5.xx in... > > /etc/dhcpd.conf > /etc/network.conf > /etc/sh-httpd.conf > > /etc/ipfilter.conf looked OK as-is. > > I backed up packages etc, dhcpd, & weblet. Everything works fine except I > can't get the weblet page to display. > > What did I miss? How many changes did you make to /etc/sh-httpd.conf? /etc/sh-httpd.conf:SERVER_NAME=192.168.1.254 /etc/sh-httpd.conf:SERVER_ADDR=192.168.1.254 /etc/sh-httpd.conf:CLIENT_ADDRS="192.168.1." -- Best Regards, mds mds resource 888.250.3987 Dare to fix things before they break . . . Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we think we know. The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . . --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 15:17:35 -0800 (PST) From: Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mark Plowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] DCD & java ??? On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Mark Plowman wrote: > Jack, > > > From: Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 12:09:56 -0800 (PST) > > <snip> > > > At any rate, I've just uploaded my 3.2 MB postfix.lrp to the > > www.monkeynoodle.org packages repository. > > Glad to see a *nice* Mailer Server from a *friendly* author get onto > LEAF, but how do you run Postfix without *persistent* mail queue > i.e. no hard disk? > After Wietse's comments regarding the non-suitability of ext2fs for mail, I'm not even going to risk his ire by doing something ramfs based :-) The assumption here is that you'd use hdsupp to mount a disk or two for /var/spool/postfix, then just run the system from RAM. Every now and then I try to put together a disk image that would do this for people, but I never get anywhere :-) It's a pretty crazy goal, compared to doing a Gentoo or OpenBSD install on the same hardware. > I am still of the opinion that LEAF is a floppy based > firewall/router/network connectivity "thing" and *not* an appliance > server, but then I am still running Eigerstien from a floppy instead > of Dachstein from a CD ("if it ain't broke, don't fix it")! > The only reason I switched to boot-from-hard drive is I got annoyed with how long backups took. > Just my 2 cents ;-) > > > Greetings > > Mark > -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... --__--__-- Message: 11 Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 15:22:17 -0800 (PST) From: Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Matt Schalit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] DCD & java ??? On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Matt Schalit wrote: > Jack Coates wrote: > > > > Is there interest in massive applications in general? > > Massive but not rediculous. Perl and java are useful but > large. A LEAF box with them gets closer and closer to > being a full distro, minus the x-windows. Certainly > the user would need a cdrom based LEAF. I'd like to > see java2, but only the jre. God only knows how well > that'll work on a crippled Linux box :) > Just for kicks, I took a look at kaffe 1.0.5 -- 1.75 MB .lrp for the whole environment. I don't know enough about java to say what can get taken out of that. > > > The appliance-friendly nature of LEAF makes one think yes, > > but then the limitations of RAM disk, glibc, etc... > > > Yes, reinventing the wheel is bogus, and that's what happens > when we try to pack everything from a full distro into a LEAF. > > > > At any rate, I've just uploaded my 3.2 MB postfix.lrp to > > the www.monkeynoodle.org packages repository. If I get a chance today > > I'll see if a JRE will compile too :-) > > > Well that's 3.2MB of _something_, I don't know what :) > > You might be interested in j2me. That's the Java2 Micro Edition > targeted at embedded systems like color pda's and cell phones with > limited memory and space. > > http://java.sun.com/j2me/ > Interesting idea, but no download link that I could see. > It's like Java2 minus the swing and awt stuff. Might work > well for people. I'm busy writing full blown java2 apps, > but once I learn those, I may poke around with j2me also. > > Regards, > Matthew > > _______________________________________________ > Leaf-user mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user > -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... --__--__-- Message: 12 Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 15:22:18 -0800 (PST) From: Larry Platzek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Kenneth Hadley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], LEAF-user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] dialup with leaf - how? Kenneth can you check the image? Goto package configuration and select PPP I get only one item not usual 5 things to configure. Sorry I did not get back to you sooner, I thought I was getting a bad download, but I have now done it several times for several times now. I think also the dnscache is not right. I am not on my machine at this time so do not remember exact error. Larry Platzek [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Kenneth Hadley wrote: > Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 12:30:59 -0800 > From: Kenneth Hadley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: LEAF-user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] dialup with leaf - how? > > You can try http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/khadley/ppp.html > there is right now no direct link on my web pages to it cause I need some > testers > Let me know if it works for you > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Wegner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 12:25 PM > Subject: [Leaf-user] dialup with leaf - how? > > > > I am sure this question is so obvious that I can't see the answer > > right in front of my nose! I am a happy user of Dachstein with dhcp > > DSL, but I have a friend who wants to use Dachstein with dialup. > > > > What is needed to use leaf (e.g. Dachstein) with ppp dialup? ppp.lrp? > > pppd.lrp? Can Kenneth Hadley's instructions for pppoe (which support > > pppoe over ethernet) be modified for dialup? I have seached the mail > > archives and a few of the leaf sites and haven't quite figure this > > out. > > > > I'm guessing this is very simple once one knows the answer :-) > > > > Tim Wegner > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leaf-user mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user > > _______________________________________________ > Leaf-user mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user > --__--__-- Message: 13 Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 17:56:50 -0600 From: "Michael D. Schleif" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: mds resource To: Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: Matt Schalit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] DCD & java ??? Jack Coates wrote: > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Matt Schalit wrote: > > > Jack Coates wrote: > > > > > > > Is there interest in massive applications in general? > > > > Massive but not rediculous. Perl and java are useful but > > large. A LEAF box with them gets closer and closer to > > being a full distro, minus the x-windows. Certainly > > the user would need a cdrom based LEAF. I'd like to > > see java2, but only the jre. God only knows how well > > that'll work on a crippled Linux box :) > > > > Just for kicks, I took a look at kaffe 1.0.5 -- 1.75 MB .lrp for the > whole environment. I don't know enough about java to say what can get > taken out of that. Where'd you get the source? I'd like to try my hand at it and prune it to its bare minimum and our application still works ;> [ snip ] -- Best Regards, mds mds resource 888.250.3987 Dare to fix things before they break . . . Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we think we know. The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . . --__--__-- Message: 14 From: "Stewart Adey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 10:43:39 +1100 Subject: [Leaf-user] Hardware router Linux look-alike Does anyone know how _HARD_ it would be to create an interface like so many commerically available hardware routers on the market? What I mean are those web-based port-forwarding, port opening, cgi script interfaces. Because if someone (or I if i learned about what i need to do to make it happen) could implement it, it would certainly make life a hell of allot easier, and it would take away many of the constantly repeated requests for help on the leaf-user-request maillist. Just a thought! p.s. Get back to me quick! I'm in the mood to start to learn cgi programming! HURRY!!!! --__--__-- Message: 15 From: guitarlynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] Hardware router Linux look-alike Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 18:39:25 -0600 On Sunday 03 February 2002 17:43, Stewart Adey wrote: > p.s. Get back to me quick! I'm in the mood to start to learn cgi > programming! HURRY!!!! I've been looking at doing something like this, but the size and security are _big_ concerns. I would be easy to do something that simply works, but if it's easy to hack like most cheap commercial routers there's not much of a point in doing it. Ultimately, there will be an online floppy image generator similar to the old Coyote one (sloppy) or other modern ones like BBImage. I'm looking at other source code and in the planning stage right now. Having configuration scripts that take advantage of all possible setups with any of the LEAF releases would be too large to fit on a floppy period, so we can either go with a basic config script via sh-httpd and a full-config online generator or simply do the online generator. The questions really lie in the extreme diversity contained in our releases and how to keep from limiting this while making it easy to configure. I'd love some ideas and input on this! A great book for ash (shell) scripting is "The UNIX programming environment" by Kernighan (1984 and available at many libraries). Perl would likely be preferred for the online generator, IMHO. -- ~Lynn Avants aka Guitarlynn guitarlynn at users.sourceforge.net http://leaf.sourceforge.net If linux isn't the answer, you've probably got the wrong question! --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user End of Leaf-user Digest _______________________________________________ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user