[LEAPSECS] Looking-glass, through

2011-01-12 Thread Rob Seaman
Apologies for a delayed reply, I'm on travel at a conference. On Sat, 8 Jan 2011, I wrote: I do not believe the unstated magic timezone notion (if indeed that is an idea motivating the authors of the draft in front of the ITU) can work (or rather, I do not believe that this notion

Re: [LEAPSECS] Looking-glass, through

2011-01-12 Thread Tony Finch
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Rob Seaman wrote: Sloshing the timezones around willy-nilly by every regional government on Earth is not a solution to establishing the underlying common timescale. Of course not, that's backwards. The common timescale is the basis of timezones, not the other way round.

[LEAPSECS] Accuracy and Precision

2011-01-12 Thread Finkleman, Dave
These terms have appeared in recent exchanges. Keeping the distinction clear is one of my continuing quests. Perhaps I have it wrong, too. I am sure that someone will let me know. Accuracy is how well a measurement compares to a standard. If my one meter measuring stick is not one meter long,

Re: [LEAPSECS] Accuracy and Precision

2011-01-12 Thread Michael Deckers
On 2011-01-12 17:33, Finkleman, Dave wrote: These terms [accuracy and precision] have appeared in recent exchanges. Keeping the distinction clear is one of my continuing quests. Perhaps I have it wrong, too. I am sure that someone will let me know. Accuracy is how well a measurement

Re: [LEAPSECS] Looking-glass, through

2011-01-12 Thread Warner Losh
On 01/12/2011 10:30, Steve Allen wrote: On Wed 2011-01-12T16:36:35 +, Tony Finch hath writ: Yes, but how accurately do you need clocks to track it? How frequently do you need to make adjustments to correct for the atomic/angular rate error, and what size of adjustment is acceptable? It

Re: [LEAPSECS] Looking-glass, through

2011-01-12 Thread Clive D.W. Feather
Rob Seaman said: For instance, what authority will historians or lawyers consult to learn the applicable timezone offsets that were in force in some location(s) during some epoch(s) in question? FX: falls about laughing Those of us on the timezone list can't even find out this information

[LEAPSECS] Historican timezones (Was: Re: Looking-glass, through)

2011-01-12 Thread Paul Sheer
The Olson time library has all historican timezone information. You can choose a zone, a time (back to the 1800's) and deduce the precise zone offset in minutes and seconds. This is inclusive of wierd time zones that were based on the hour since sunrise (or some similar wierd thing), as well as