Re: [LEAPSECS] Telescope pointing

2012-06-08 Thread Tom Van Baak (lab)
Would it be possible to fudge the longitude instead of the time? That way automatic trackers that assume UTC is almost UT1 would still find their target. /tvb (iPhone4) On Jun 8, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Rob Seaman wrote: > Some other issues: pointing the telescope is not the same as tracking, sol

Re: [LEAPSECS] Telescope pointing

2012-06-08 Thread Rob Seaman
Some other issues:  pointing the telescope is not the same as tracking, solar system targets move at non-sidereal rates, IR cameras and others at non-visible wavelengths have to be pointed with blind offsets, fiber-fed spectrographs place hundreds (thousands in the near future) of tiny apertures ac

Re: [LEAPSECS] Telescope pointing

2012-06-08 Thread Steve Allen
On Fri 2012-06-08T13:47:29 -0400, Gerard Ashton hath writ: > So summarizing what I find in Steve's paper [...] > it requires intervention by the on-site observing technicians. [...] > The same telescope will develop serious problems within a year of > the discontinuance of leap seconds. Different

Re: [LEAPSECS] Telescope pointing

2012-06-08 Thread Gerard Ashton
So summarizing what I find in Steve's paper, and only concerning the pointing of the telescope and not the reporting results from the scope, large telescopes with guidance systems from the 1970s and 1980s have a guide camera field of view of 3 arcminutes, or a bit more. So if the telescope was aime

Re: [LEAPSECS] Telescope pointing

2012-06-08 Thread Steve Allen
On 2012 Jun 8, at 09:11, Warner Losh wrote: > I've heard of some with built-in GPS receivers to get time, > and the internal receivers were hard to swap out The last one in my paper is the APF. It is a closed-source black-box system which relies on its own nonconformant code for celestial and ter

Re: [LEAPSECS] Telescope pointing

2012-06-08 Thread Warner Losh
On Jun 8, 2012, at 9:51 AM, Rob Seaman wrote: > On Jun 8, 2012, at 8:26 AM, Gerard Ashton wrote: > >> There seems to be confusion between the preprint table of contents and the >> titles of the papers one finds upon clicking the link. Could you specify how >> to get to the preprint? > > > I th

Re: [LEAPSECS] Telescope pointing

2012-06-08 Thread Rob Seaman
On Jun 8, 2012, at 8:26 AM, Gerard Ashton wrote: > There seems to be confusion between the preprint table of contents and the > titles of the papers one finds upon clicking the link. Could you specify how > to get to the preprint? I think Steve meant: http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/future

Re: [LEAPSECS] Telescope pointing

2012-06-08 Thread Gerard Ashton
There seems to be confusion between the preprint table of contents and the titles of the papers one finds upon clicking the link. Could you specify how to get to the preprint? Gerry Ashton -Original Message- From: leapsecs-boun...@leapsecond.com [mailto:leapsecs-boun...@leapsecond.com] On

Re: [LEAPSECS] Telescope pointing

2012-06-08 Thread Steve Allen
On 2012 Jun 8, at 04:32, Gerard Ashton wrote: > The list often discusses the fact that astronomers need UT1. Does anyone > know astronomer's requirement for pointing accuracy. Does anyone know of a > document that discusses how astronomers receive ΔUT1 and incorporate it in > telescope pointing sys

[LEAPSECS] Telescope pointing

2012-06-08 Thread Gerard Ashton
The list often discusses the fact that astronomers need UT1. Does anyone know astronomer's requirement for pointing accuracy. Does anyone know of a document that discusses how astronomers receive ΔUT1 and incorporate it in telescope pointing systems. (For telescope, read any astronomical instrument