Re: [LEAPSECS] Hetzner mail to customers: 1 megawatt more power due to leap second

2012-07-05 Thread Michael Spacefalcon
Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez clo...@igalia.com wrote: Computers are not designed to cope with random time drifts, Mine are. Please don't make blanket statements. -- Michael Spacefalcon, formerly Michael Sokolov, who uses rubber seconds and has just recently gone through the system

Re: [LEAPSECS] Hetzner mail to customers: 1 megawatt more power due to leap second

2012-07-05 Thread Warner Losh
On Jul 5, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Michael Spacefalcon wrote: Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez clo...@igalia.com wrote: Computers are not designed to cope with random time drifts, Mine are. Please don't make blanket statements. I think this was more of a comment about how fragile our modern

Re: [LEAPSECS] Hetzner mail to customers: 1 megawatt more power due to leap second

2012-07-05 Thread Michael Spacefalcon
Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote: I think this was more of a comment about how fragile our modern infrastructure is when confronted with a Leap Second. Yes, I agree that the evidence points in the direction of your statement. But we probably disagree on what the right solution is. Per my

Re: [LEAPSECS] Hetzner mail to customers: 1 megawatt more power due to leap second

2012-07-05 Thread Gerard Ashton
Michael Spacefalcon wrote a standardized, widely recognized and adopted scheme for converting leap seconds to rubber seconds is what we need but also mentioned a normal computer motherboard quartz crystal oscillator. But of course there are systems that are far more accurate than a normal

Re: [LEAPSECS] Hetzner mail to customers: 1 megawatt more power due to leap second

2012-07-05 Thread Michael Spacefalcon
Gerard Ashton ashto...@comcast.net wrote: Michael Spacefalcon wrote a standardized, widely recognized and adopted scheme for converting leap seconds to rubber seconds is what we need but also mentioned a normal computer motherboard quartz crystal oscillator. But of course there are systems

Re: [LEAPSECS] Hetzner mail to customers: 1 megawatt more power due to leap second

2012-07-05 Thread Warner Losh
On Jul 5, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Michael Spacefalcon wrote: Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote: I think this was more of a comment about how fragile our modern infrastructure is when confronted with a Leap Second. Yes, I agree that the evidence points in the direction of your statement. But

Re: [LEAPSECS] Hetzner mail to customers: 1 megawatt more power due to leap second

2012-07-05 Thread Gerard Ashton
Michael Spacefalcon gave an overview of how a high precision system (which he incorrectly supposed I possessed or ran) could interface to a low precision system. But if a rubber time scale ever became law, high precision systems might have to interface with each other indirectly through the rubber

Re: [LEAPSECS] Hetzner mail to customers: 1 megawatt more power due to leap second

2012-07-05 Thread Clive D.W. Feather
Michael Spacefalcon said: Suppose that a rubberization scheme were officially defined as something like this: At such and such precise time, the length of the civil second changes from exactly one SI second to exactly 1.001 SI seconds. At such and such precise subsequent time, it changes back