On Feb 12, 2014, at 5:36 AM, Greg Hennessy wrote:
Um, that is false. All linux kernels did not crash, in fact NONE of
mine did.
all here was an overstatement, but the impact of the leap second
should never be your kernel crashes even if your personal kernels
didn't.
You should
On 2014-02-12 04:36 AM, Greg Hennessy wrote:
Um, that is false. All linux kernels did not crash, in fact NONE of
mine did.
all here was an overstatement, but the impact of the leap second
should never be your kernel crashes even if your personal kernels
didn't.
You should refrain from
Warner Losh writes:
On Feb 12, 2014, at 5:36 AM, Greg Hennessy wrote:
Um, that is false. All linux kernels did not crash, in fact NONE of
mine did.
all here was an overstatement, but the impact of the leap second
should never be your kernel crashes even if your personal kernels
On Feb 12, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Harlan Stenn wrote:
Warner Losh writes:
On Feb 12, 2014, at 5:36 AM, Greg Hennessy wrote:
Um, that is false. All linux kernels did not crash, in fact NONE of
mine did.
all here was an overstatement, but the impact of the leap second
should never be your
On Feb 12, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote:
The linux kernel has been touted by some of its proponents as the most tested
and verified kernel around. Some may quibble with this characterization, but
if not the most, certainly one of the most. And even so, this problem
On Feb 12, 2014, at 9:09 AM, Rob Seaman wrote:
On Feb 12, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote:
The linux kernel has been touted by some of its proponents as the most
tested and verified kernel around. Some may quibble with this
characterization, but if not the most,
On 2014-02-12 07:47 AM, Warner Losh wrote:
The linux kernel has been touted by some of its proponents as the most tested
and verified kernel around. Some may quibble with this characterization, but if
not the most, certainly one of the most. And even so, this problem with leap
seconds
On 2014-02-12 08:03 AM, Warner Losh wrote:
On Feb 12, 2014, at 8:03 AM, Brooks Harris wrote:
On 2014-02-12 04:36 AM, Greg Hennessy wrote:
Um, that is false. All linux kernels did not crash, in fact NONE of
mine did.
all here was an overstatement, but the impact of the leap second
should
On Feb 12, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Brooks Harris wrote:
On 2014-02-12 08:09 AM, Rob Seaman wrote:
There are many much more complex computer science challenges. In fact, the
entire purpose of these things called computers is to deal efficiently with
hellaciously complicated problems. This
Hi Warner,
You’ll note that this particular email is addressed to you. Most contributions
to this mailing list are not personally addressed. In those cases one might
reasonably infer that other messages were intended as general contributions to
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On Feb 12, 2014, at 9:09 AM,
On 2014-02-12 09:46 AM, Warner Losh wrote:
On Feb 12, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Brooks Harris wrote:
On 2014-02-12 08:09 AM, Rob Seaman wrote:
There are many much more complex computer science challenges. In fact, the
entire purpose of these things called computers is to deal efficiently with
On Feb 12, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Rob Seaman wrote:
Hi Warner,
You’ll note that this particular email is addressed to you. Most
contributions to this mailing list are not personally addressed. In those
cases one might reasonably infer that other messages were intended as general
E) Leap seconds are tied to observations of the earth's spin, rather than
predicted years in advance. With only 6 months warning for leap seconds,
this produces operational difficulties for many environments that have
burdensome change control policies.
What do those organizations do when
Warner Losh writes:
On Feb 12, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Harlan Stenn wrote:
Warner Losh writes:
On Feb 12, 2014, at 5:36 AM, Greg Hennessy wrote:
Um, that is false. All linux kernels did not crash, in fact NONE of
mine did.
all here was an overstatement, but the impact of the leap
On Feb 12, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Harlan Stenn wrote:
The conclusions I draw from the utter lack of any similar reports from
non-linux systems are:
- either those kernels/libraries did not do leap-second processing, or
- they did and their code worked
Do you have different conclusions?
Yes.
Warner Losh said:
Yes. I've never been able to understand why facing the guts of this problem
has been evaded. Its a great computer-science project - it should be fun!
The problem stems not because one person can't climb the complexity hill to
get it right: several have. The problem comes
Hal Murray said:
I don't pay attention to summer time in Europe. How often do things change
over there and/or how much notice do people get when the rules are changed?
The EU has standard rules defined in a Directive. The present Directive is
2000/84/EC and was published in the Official
Brooks Harris said:
D) Clarifying timezone guidelines, including standardizing
international date line, UTC offset, and methods of Daylight
instantiation
Um, timezones are a political matter pure and simple. Who do you think is
going to listen to you?
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Clive D.W. Feather | If
Ian Batten said:
The easternmost point of the London district of Greenwich is a the
intersection of two roads, Maze Hill and Charlton Way. The coordinates are
51° 28.509' N, 0° 0.602' E
I'm not sure what you're using as a definition of district. SE2 0AT is in
the
Royal Borough of
On 12 Feb 2014, at 22:22, Clive D.W. Feather cl...@davros.org wrote:
Ian Batten said:
The easternmost point of the London district of Greenwich is a the
intersection of two roads, Maze Hill and Charlton Way. The coordinates are
51° 28.509' N, 0° 0.602' E
I'm not sure what you're using as
Back in the 1974 oil crisis the US made an 'emergency' change to its
DST schedual. I don't recall the legal mechanism used. It was likely
an executive order from the President.
But it most definitely was with less than 6 months notice so the legal
precedent is exists in the US.
I also have
Warner Losh writes:
On Feb 12, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Harlan Stenn wrote:
The conclusions I draw from the utter lack of any similar reports from
non-linux systems are:
- either those kernels/libraries did not do leap-second processing, or
- they did and their code worked
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