Re: [LEAPSECS] UT1 offset

2023-12-28 Thread Steve Allen
On Thu 2023-12-28T09:23:30+ Poul-Henning Kamp hath writ: > Also: When&where celestial navigation is possible, most vessels > travel a lot further than 50 meters during the time it takes to make > a measurement of the necessary precision. As noted by ION https://www.ion.org/Museum/item_view.cf

Re: [LEAPSECS] UT1 offset

2023-12-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Warner Losh writes: > Still, even 50m can be a lot if you are flying over a narrow mountain pass > in a plane that can't just fly super-high above it... Celestial navigation requires you to be able to see something through the windows. If that is an option the sane pilot would look at t

Re: [LEAPSECS] UT1 offset

2023-12-28 Thread Mike Hapgood - STFC UKRI via LEAPSECS
Jim outlines a calculation I've done many times. But there's a similar calculation for GNSS systems (GPS, Galileo, Beidou, etc). If you want to use GNSS to determine positions on Earth's surface to accuracy of a few metres, the system needs an estimate of current UT1 accurate at least to a few

Re: [LEAPSECS] UT1 offset

2023-12-28 Thread Warner Losh
On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 6:04 AM Jim Lux wrote: > Let’s back of the envelope the impact of a 1 second error in a longitude > sight. > The Sun moves 360 degrees in 86400 seconds. A one second error is then > about 0.004 degree. But in equatorial km, let’s assume 40,000 km > circumference, so 40,00