Re: [LEAPSECS] Leap Sec vs Y2K

2010-12-10 Thread p
very much need to know and agree what time it is. Yes but mostly only to an accuracy of minutes. -paul Sent from my BlackBerry® by Boost Mobile -Original Message- From: Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk Sender: leapsecs-boun...@leapsecond.com Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 18:42:42

Re: [LEAPSECS] An example

2010-11-03 Thread p
Just because we can't immediately see a reason, does not mean that there is none. A lot will change in 100 years that even the venerable PHK cannot foresee. So far, astronomers have messed with our timekeeping at least once every 20 years for the last 200 years, so I do think we have the

Re: [LEAPSECS] UTC Redefinition Advanced

2010-11-02 Thread p
Rob ... you're absolutely right. Eliminating leap seconds WOULD introduce a secular trend ... IF (and here's the part I haven't convinced you about yet) no other means for compensating for it is implemented, FOREVER AND EVER. The Pisa architects are in a meeting: Let us not worry

Re: [LEAPSECS] An example

2010-11-02 Thread p
to scrap leap seconds. -paul Sent from my BlackBerry® by Boost Mobile -Original Message- From: Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk Sender: leapsecs-boun...@leapsecond.com Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 00:33:56 To: Leap Second Discussion Listleapsecs@leapsecond.com Reply-To: Leap Second Discussion

Re: [LEAPSECS] Cost: getting rid of GMT discontinuing leap seconds

2010-10-24 Thread p
it will be necessary to modify all [...] Why? It will also be necessary to. modify all computer programs which keep civil time [...] Examples of such programs with a material manifestation of a problem? -paul Sent from my BlackBerry® by Boost Mobile -Original Message- From:

Re: [LEAPSECS] UTC Redefinition Advanced

2010-10-24 Thread p
There is merely a reexamination of the presumption that DUT1 has to be kept to less than 0.9 seconds, The questionaire of the US itc did not sound like this. It sounded every bit like a scrapping of leap seconds altogether. Let's get quantitative. What magnitude of DUT1 would be

Re: [LEAPSECS] h2g2

2010-09-03 Thread p
on the SAME time. Nobody cares here that solar time and civil time are 43 minutes off. *I* care but I'm not important - I'm just one person many people might care and many people are not getting to make the decision because the decision is being made for them. further, it's not a

Re: [LEAPSECS] LEAPSECS Digest, Vol 45, Issue 1

2010-09-03 Thread p
Don't disregard ITU totally here. ITU-T has UTC written into the standards for cross-TelCo billing interfaces/protocols. ...all the implementations of those standards just use unix time. -paul ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com

Re: [LEAPSECS] New time scale name

2010-08-13 Thread p
UTC cannot exist without [...] All this talk of GMT/UTC/Legislature makes me ask how the world currently syncs their time. In the case of SMS networks - they use NTP or nothing. In the case of in-house business systems - they use NTP or nothing. In the case of Internet hosts - DNS/SMTP

Re: [LEAPSECS] New time scale name

2010-08-13 Thread p
If, for sake of discussion, we view TAI as correct, then according to HP Application Note 1289, The Science of Timekeeping, D. W. Allen, N. Ashby, and C. C. Hodge, the irregularities in the rotation of the earth are at the level of 1.5 × 10^-9 (page 20). Frequency transfer using HF radio