David Malone wrote on Thu, 2 Jul 2015
at 20:13:58 +0100 in <20150702191358.gb34...@walton.maths.tcd.ie>:
> > It seems to me that the problem here is that the Systemd people picked
> Maybe worth noting here?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTP_server_misuse_and_abuse
Definitely not. Wi
On Wed, Jul 01, 2015 at 12:14:21PM +, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> >> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/437 [1]
>
> It seems to me that the problem here is that the Systemd people picked
> default NTP serves without asking the owner/admins of those servers
> if that was 1) allowed and 2)
Arbitrary timescales are not useful with NTPv4 and before.
They will be with NTPv5 and later (if I have anything to say about it -
a pretty safe bet) as this capability is part of the General Timestamp
API that NTF is working on, as the GTSAPI will be used by NTP. It will
also have a portable lib
On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:31 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> it is pretty obvious that John Olivers attention to the leap-second vastly
> increased the awareness.
It was the final kick, but the interest level was up broadly already, with many
new voices like:
https://medium.com/@NGA_GEOINT
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
I'm not quite sure about the consequence of this one:
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/437
But it seems possible that large fraction of Linux systems have
been following Googles leap-smear without knowing it because of
systemd.
One of my colleagues ha
In message ,
m...@lumieresimaginaire.com writes:
>Sure, this is what happened with routers a long time ago.
Tell me about it, I was the one who had to yell at D-Link
to get them to pay for the damage they caused.
Nearly cost me $20K for running my pro-bono NTP server :-(
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Poul-Hen
Le 01.07.2015 14:14, Poul-Henning Kamp a écrit :
In message ,
m...@lumieresimaginaire.com writes:
This example makes that all the more important if people like google
are exposing non UTC compliant data outside their firewall.
There are very valuable NTP servers serving up special
In message ,
m...@lumieresimaginaire.com writes:
>This example makes that all the more important if people like google are
>exposing non UTC compliant data outside their firewall.
There are very valuable NTP servers serving up special timescales
(including TAI), so that would be a tota
Le 01.07.2015 10:31, Poul-Henning Kamp a écrit :
I seem to remember there was discussion some time back about getting a
"confidence indicator" in NTP packets.
This example makes that all the more important if people like google are
exposing non UTC compliant data outside their firewall.
I
It was quite interesting to watch Twitter during the leap-second, it is
pretty obvious that John Olivers attention to the leap-second vastly
increased the awareness.
Given that awareness has always been the major deficiency about leap-seconds
he may just have saved them, by showing that awareness
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