Re: [LEAPSECS] All of this has happened before

2015-01-29 Thread Kevin Birth
Discussion List Subject: Re: [LEAPSECS] All of this has happened before On Jan 29, 2015, at 1:05 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: In message bdf1dd12-9e80-4516-91ba-76127dcb9...@noao.edu, Rob Seaman writes: On Jan 28, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote

Re: [LEAPSECS] All of this has happened before

2015-01-29 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message bdf1dd12-9e80-4516-91ba-76127dcb9...@noao.edu, Rob Seaman writes: On Jan 28, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: Derives from is not a physical reality, it's merely a social custom. So many replies to choose from [...] ... all of them unresponsive

Re: [LEAPSECS] All of this has happened before

2015-01-29 Thread Rob Seaman
On Jan 29, 2015, at 1:05 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: In message bdf1dd12-9e80-4516-91ba-76127dcb9...@noao.edu, Rob Seaman writes: On Jan 28, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: Derives from is not a physical reality, it's merely a social

Re: [LEAPSECS] All of this has happened before

2015-01-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
We each wear multiple hats. Two of mine are 1) to point out that physical reality trumps standards and software, [...] And one of my hats is to point out that you have no monopoly on defining physical reality and have a great tendency to define it to support your opinions. Likewise,

Re: [LEAPSECS] All of this has happened before

2015-01-28 Thread Rob Seaman
On Jan 28, 2015, at 10:02 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: We each wear multiple hats. Two of mine are 1) to point out that physical reality trumps standards and software, [...] And one of my hats is to point out that you have no monopoly on defining physical reality and

Re: [LEAPSECS] All of this has happened before

2015-01-28 Thread Rob Seaman
On Jan 28, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: Derives from is not a physical reality, it's merely a social custom. So many replies to choose from - and so many that have been posted in the past - let's go with some (unvetted) quotes on custom: - Truth always

[LEAPSECS] All of this has happened before

2015-01-28 Thread Rob Seaman
We each wear multiple hats. Two of mine are 1) to point out that physical reality trumps standards and software, and that 2) that there are precious few conversations here that haven’t occurred before: - Warner has explained his use case in the past. There are likely no engineering use