Recalibrating to get to the point.
1. Universal Time is a set of time scales related to the mean diurnal
motion of the Sun.So defined in many places and first recommended by
the IAU in 1935. Different flavors have been defined and redefined
since, but the connection with motion of the Sun is
On Wed 2010-11-03T12:39:30 -0400, Finkleman, Dave hath writ:
> Anything "Universal" by definition must be related to the mean motion of
> the Sun.
This usage dates from the 1884 International Meridian Conference
at which the terms "cosmic" and "universal" were applied, depending
on the translation
On 03 Nov 10, at 1639, Finkleman, Dave wrote:
> ITU-R 460-x are not
> normative international standards. A normative standard can be
> referenced in contracts as a binding requirement.
I'm not quite sure what point you're making there. I can reference any
document as a binding requirement in
Well stated. I'm not sure about the intended meaning of the final sentence
beginning "We require guidance" and ending "element of that spectrum".
Rob
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On Nov 3, 2010, at 9:39 AM, Finkleman, Dave wrote:
> Recalibrating to get to the point.
>
> 1. Universal Time is a set of time scales relat
In message <3b33e89c51d2de44be2f0c757c656c88099aa...@mail02.stk.com>, "Finklema
n, Dave" writes:
>3. The ITU is constituted under the UN as a regulatory agency without
>the force of law.
Check the fine print...
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Getting back to basics is good, but my view is different from Mr.
Finkleman's.
The world of measurements is effectively divided into the realms of
discussion, publication, and research, versus the realm of commerce. In
the first realm, you can do whatever you want (if you live in a place
wher
On Wed 2010-11-03T13:46:02 -0400, ashtongj hath writ:
> But I could write a contract specifying UTC and I strongly suspect
> it would be enforced.
In that case all POSIX systems are illegal and would be
subject to confiscation or shutdown.
Just yesterday we showed that there is no single, consist
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, ashtongj wrote:
>
> The law in the US sets up time zones based on UTC, and contains the following:
>
> Coordinated Universal Time Defined.--In this section, the
> term `Coordinated Universal Time' means the time scale maintained
> through the General Conference of Weights
On Wed 2010-11-03T18:22:16 +, Tony Finch hath writ:
> That is very strange wording, given that UTC is specified by the ITU-R but
> only endorsed by the CGPM. Is it that the BIPM has a lot of operational
> responsibility for UTC, and they are an agency under the authority of the
> CGPM?
Remembe
ashtongj wrote:
> If I point a gun at the police when they show
> up to assist the inspectors, the police will kill me.
And what if your army is stronger than the police and you kill them,
not the other way around?
I have heard that the average ratio in USA is approximately 1000
citizens per p
On 11/03/2010 12:25, Steve Allen wrote:
On Wed 2010-11-03T18:22:16 +, Tony Finch hath writ:
That is very strange wording, given that UTC is specified by the ITU-R but
only endorsed by the CGPM. Is it that the BIPM has a lot of operational
responsibility for UTC, and they are an agency under
On 3 Nov 2010, at 17:59, Steve Allen wrote:
> On Wed 2010-11-03T13:46:02 -0400, ashtongj hath writ:
>> But I could write a contract specifying UTC and I strongly suspect
>> it would be enforced.
>
> In that case all POSIX systems are illegal and would be
> subject to confiscation or shutdown.
A
On 2010-11-03 18:25, Steve Allen wrote:
Remember that the standing CGPM resolution says that UTC is
mean solar time.
http://www1.bipm.org/jsp/en/ViewCGPMResolution.jsp?CGPM=15&RES=5
No. It says "approximation to .. mean solar time". That this is
meant is grammatically unambiguous
On Nov 3, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Ian Batten wrote:
...otherwise UTC(GPS) is fine...
There is no such thing as UTC(GPS).
The GPS signal provides the offset that allows the receiver to compute
UTC(USNO). It can also be used to disseminate UTC estimates of other
national laboratories, but they
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