On 14 Jan 2014 at 23:29, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
It follows rather trivially from the fact that there were no
year zero, that the first century must contain the years [1...100] in
order to be a century.
And how many seconds must those years contain?
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On 15 Jan 2014 at 12:58, Richard Clark wrote:
When you enter a building on ground level and you go to a room on the
1st floor do you expect to use the stairs or elevator? The answer depends
on wheather you are in Europe or the US (or on the campus of the University
of Arizona).
One building
On 15 Jan, 2014, at 14:58 , Richard Clark rcl...@noao.edu wrote:
And as for counting-- it's not always in the realm of mathematicians.
When you enter a building on ground level and you go to a room on the
1st floor do you expect to use the stairs or elevator? The answer depends
on wheather
Greg Hennessy said:
Dennis McCarthy once forwarded me an english translation of the
Inter gravissimas,
http://www.bluewaterarts.com/calendar/NewInterGravissimas.htm
and it is utterly silent as to what to call the
year before 1 AD.
Indeed, it says nothing about how years are numbered, but
Indeed, it says nothing about how years are numbered, but assumes everyone
already knows.
Those assumptions can bite you every time.
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Matsakis, Demetrios demetrios.matsa...@usno.navy.mil wrote:
Not my issue, but the last day of the 20th century is technically
December 31, 2000. I wish it weren't. When this controversy passed in
1701, Isaac Newton is quoted has having rejoiced that the issue was
finally behind us.
Century
, 2014 7:17 PM
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Well, while the idea of zero wasn't well established in Christ's time
In message cefc056f.7cac%kevin.bi...@qc.cuny.edu, Kevin Birth writes:
Kevin,
Do you happen to know if the church actually did ban negative numbers
for some period of time ?
I've seen several popular references claim that the church banned
negative numbers as the devils numbers etc, but I've not
-monopoly.
Gerry Ashton
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On Wed 2014-01-15T12:00:47 -0500, Gerard Ashton hath writ:
E. G. Richards in Mapping Time: The Calendar and its History mentions the
church was leary of negative numbers, and Hindu-Arabic numerals. He suggests
one possible reason being that most of the people who could do arithmetic
with Roman
In message alpine.lrh.2.00.1401151224330.20...@nadreck.tuc.noao.edu, Richard
Clark writes:
I've always liked the view that the first century spanned the years 1-99.
Yes, the appeal is obvious, apart from that pescy detail of century
meaning hundred...
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2014, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message alpine.lrh.2.00.1401151224330.20...@nadreck.tuc.noao.edu, Richard
Clark writes:
I've always liked the view that the first century spanned the years 1-99.
Yes, the appeal is obvious, apart from that pescy detail of century
meaning
On Jan 15, 2014, at 3:14 PM, Richard Clark rcl...@noao.edu wrote:
Also centipedes don't have exactly 100 legs.
…though they’ll typically have an even number ;-)
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Not my issue, but the last day of the 20th century is technically December 31,
2000.I wish it weren't. When this controversy passed in 1701, Isaac
Newton is quoted has having rejoiced that the issue was finally behind us.
Also, I would add November 18, 1858 as the first day in the
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[mailto:leapsecs-boun...@leapsecond.com] On Behalf Of Matsakis, Demetrios
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [LEAPSECS] LEAPSECS Digest, Vol 88, Issue 31
Not my issue, but the last day of the 20th century is technically
In message 000301cf117f$cb7b7be0$627273a0$@comcast.net, Gerard Ashton write
s:
no authority is in a position to demand that December
31, 2000, be regarded as the last day of the 20th century.
I do belive mathematicians have done a fair bit of work on counting,
and that they are entitled to
On 01/14/2014 05:39 PM, Matsakis, Demetrios wrote:
Not my issue, but the last day of the 20th century is technically
December 31, 2000.I wish it weren't. When this controversy
passed in 1701, Isaac Newton is quoted has having rejoiced that the
issue was finally behind us.
Well, that
On 01/14/2014 06:29 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
It follows rather trivially from the fact that there were no
year zero, that the first century must contain the years [1...100] in
order to be a century.
I dispute the assertion there was no year zero,
there clearly was a year zero, it happened
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In message 000301cf117f$cb7b7be0$627273a0$@comcast.net, Gerard Ashton
write
s:
no authority is in a position to demand that December
31, 2000, be regarded as the last day of the 20th century.
I do belive
In message 52d5cb82.1050...@cox.net, Greg Hennessy writes:
On 01/14/2014 06:29 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
It follows rather trivially from the fact that there were no
year zero, that the first century must contain the years [1...100] in
order to be a century.
I dispute the assertion there
In message of8e203eec.858d9f51-on85257c60.008191bf-85257c60.0081b...@mck.us.ra
y.com, Joseph M Gwinn writes:
The problem was religious - nobody was going to have Christ born in the
year zero.
Actually, that was not really the issue, the issue was that they
didn't have negative numbers at that
.
..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_%28number%29
Joe Gwinn
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Gwinn gw...@raytheon.com
Date: 01/14/2014 07:01 PM
Subject:Re: [LEAPSECS] LEAPSECS Digest, Vol 88
On 01/14/2014 06:36 PM, Joseph M Gwinn wrote:
The problem was religious - nobody was going to have Christ born in the
year zero.
Sorta. This is another example of a system that grew, not designed.
Dionysius Exiguus came up with the AD system when he replaced a lunar
table that ended with a
On 01/14/2014 07:17 PM, Joseph M Gwinn wrote:
Well, while the idea of zero wasn't well established in Christ's time,
they did have zero (and negative numbers) in the time of Pope Gregory,
who established the Gregorian Calendar in 1582.
Dennis McCarthy once forwarded me an english translation
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