Re: [LEAPSECS] no more listening to leap seconds?

2018-08-11 Thread Jonathan E. Hardis
> On Aug 11, 2018, at 9:27 AM, Rob Seaman wrote: > > Whatever the outcome this year, the writing is on the wall. This misses the point. Everything that the U.S. Government does requires the annual support of Congress. Everything except entitlements are subject to annual appropriations. And

Re: [LEAPSECS] no more listening to leap seconds?

2018-08-11 Thread John Sauter
> > Time and Fundamental Measurement Dissemination (-$6.3 million and > -36 FTE) – NIST > will continue to maintain the U.S. time standard, and continue to > advance the development of > best in the world atomic clocks as part of its core foundational work > in this area, and > disseminate standa

Re: [LEAPSECS] no more listening to leap seconds?

2018-08-11 Thread GERRY ASHTON
With WWV and a older-style shortwave receiver, the public has the ability to set a stopwatch or similar device to sub-second accuracy. More importantly, a person who isn't a time lord can be reasonably certain they have accomplished this task correctly. With any other device I can think of, the

Re: [LEAPSECS] no more listening to leap seconds?

2018-08-11 Thread Rob Seaman
Whatever the outcome this year, the writing is on the wall. It seems shortsighted, and unnecessarily cruel to 36 people and the pleasant town of Fort Collins. The bit about the atomic spectra DB perhaps even more so; their wide range of users themselves serve a much wider range of communities. If i

Re: [LEAPSECS] no more listening to leap seconds?

2018-08-10 Thread Brooks Harris
NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF STANDARDS AND TECHNOLOGY NATIONAL TECHNICAL INFORMATION SERVICE FISCAL YEAR 2018 BUDGET SUBMISSION TO CONGRESS http://www.osec.doc.gov/bmi/budget/FY18CBJ/FY%202018%20NIST-NTIS%20Cong%20Budget%20Request%20-%20508%20Compliant%20-%20FINAL.pdf pp31 - Time and Fundamental Measu

Re: [LEAPSECS] no more listening to leap seconds?

2018-08-10 Thread Brooks Harris
On 2018-08-10 05:55 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote: >From what I understand the same "threat" occurred in 2017 with the FY18 budget. In the end, the budget ended up greater even than what was asked. So no cuts were made. Who knows what will happen this time. Still, it's always a concern; for the staff,

Re: [LEAPSECS] no more listening to leap seconds?

2018-08-10 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , "Tom Van Baak" writes: So is it possible to divine if this targets the HF or VLF or both ? I would imagine that shutting VLF would leave a lot of consumer electronics stranded. On the other hand, I'm not sure I see much point in the HF service... -- Poul-Henning Kamp

Re: [LEAPSECS] no more listening to leap seconds?

2018-08-10 Thread Tom Van Baak
nds in the morning; Charlie don't leap. /tvb - Original Message - From: "Steve Allen" To: "Leap Second Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 1:25 PM Subject: [LEAPSECS] no more listening to leap seconds? > This crossing over from time-nuts list, b

[LEAPSECS] no more listening to leap seconds?

2018-08-10 Thread Steve Allen
This crossing over from time-nuts list, but it may mean that listening to leap seconds will become a thing of the past. If I understand this summary of the NIST budget request then radio stations WWV, and WWVH are set to be shut down. https://www.nist.gov/director/fy-2019-presidential-budget-reque