Re: [Ledger-smb-users] Remote login

2010-03-28 Thread Chris Travers
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Michael Richardson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > >> "Chris" == Chris Travers writes: >    >> As far as I'm concerned, SSH tunnels (from windows, using >    >> passwords), SSL (HTTPS), IPsec (using PSK), and OpenVPN (often >    >>

Re: [Ledger-smb-users] Remote login

2010-03-28 Thread lai
Yeah, can't get rid of the corp mentality and it seems a committe is still needed prior to upgrading our back office solutions. Yeah, it was 7.3 in 2002, upgraded to its terminal 9 release, and not until 2009 we upgraded to Centos 5.3. I don't remember it returned anything when I tried yum search o

Re: [Ledger-smb-users] Remote login

2010-03-28 Thread Adam Thompson
> I disagree. > > If you are using passwords with SSH, IPsec (PSK), or OpenVPN, then it > is equivalent to HTTPS using passwords. Sure there are some minor > differences in terms of resistance to SYN attacks, and stuff like > that, but I think that is minor. > > What I'm implying is that if you ar

Re: [Ledger-smb-users] Remote login

2010-03-28 Thread Michael Richardson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "Chris" == Chris Travers writes: >> As far as I'm concerned, SSH tunnels (from windows, using >> passwords), SSL (HTTPS), IPsec (using PSK), and OpenVPN (often >> using PSK) are all pretty much equivalent in security.  HTTPS is

Re: [Ledger-smb-users] Remote login

2010-03-28 Thread Chris Travers
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Michael Richardson wrote: > > I'm also one of the maintainers of Openswan. > > CISCO VPN adapters are not IPsec compliant, btw. > The are hacks in Openswan to make it work with "CISCO VPN Adapters" (not > to be confused with CISCO IPsec solutions). > > OpenVPN has

Re: [Ledger-smb-users] Remote login

2010-03-28 Thread Michael Richardson
> "Chris" == Chris Travers writes: Chris> When I build a VPN, I prefer to do it using Chris> standards-compliant tools. OpenSSH, while Chris> standards-compliant isn't particularly scalable. OpenVPN Chris> while fairly scalable wasn't based on any standards last time Chr

Re: [Ledger-smb-users] Remote login

2010-03-27 Thread Chris Travers
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Tim Lai wrote: > Try openswan way back redhat7.3. Can't get it to compile. Is openswan > easier to implement now? We are always short of time so had to take > the easier path. Tim OpenSWAN on RH 7.3? RedHat always made custom kernel modules a bit of a problem to

Re: [Ledger-smb-users] Remote login

2010-03-27 Thread Bob Miller
I use openswan for about 15 of my clients. As Chris said, it has some big advantages in that besides linux, mac and windows can connect to it using native and standards-compliant software built into the os, and it also supports a configuration where one side of the connection can be a dynamic addr

Re: [Ledger-smb-users] Remote login

2010-03-27 Thread Tim Lai
Try openswan way back redhat7.3. Can't get it to compile. Is openswan easier to implement now? We are always short of time so had to take the easier path. Tim Sent from my iPhone On Mar 27, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Chris Travers wrote: > particularly scalable. > OpenVPN while fairly scalable was

Re: [Ledger-smb-users] Remote login

2010-03-27 Thread Chris Travers
My two cents here: When I build a VPN, I prefer to do it using standards-compliant tools. OpenSSH, while standards-compliant isn't particularly scalable. OpenVPN while fairly scalable wasn't based on any standards last time I checked. I usually use OpenS/wan in the past. The nice thing about Op

Re: [Ledger-smb-users] Remote login

2010-03-27 Thread David Godfrey
Hi Luke, Luke wrote: > On Sat, 27 Mar 2010, David Godfrey wrote: > >> We Looked at openvpn and other VPN options, but there are limitations, > > We? We as in we here at SBTS and some of our customers. > >> including the setup requirements, and issues with dynamic IP's > > Which issues are t

Re: [Ledger-smb-users] Remote login

2010-03-26 Thread Tim Lai
Use openvpn for six years now. It works great, except for remote login from iPhones. Some of the phones got upgraded to the latest firmware and can't be jailedbreaked, so no openvpn support. Then again, there is no official support of openvpn on iPhones. The tmp solution...random dir name a

Re: [Ledger-smb-users] Remote login

2010-03-26 Thread Luke
On Sat, 27 Mar 2010, David Godfrey wrote: > We Looked at openvpn and other VPN options, but there are limitations, We? > including the setup requirements, and issues with dynamic IP's Which issues are those? Given that I do it on a daily basis, I am curious. > It currently does require that

Re: [Ledger-smb-users] Remote login

2010-03-26 Thread David Godfrey
Hi Luke We Looked at openvpn and other VPN options, but there are limitations, including the setup requirements, and issues with dynamic IP's The solution we have allows simple remote connection from any machine, providing you have the required auth tokens. other than the requirement for the c

Re: [Ledger-smb-users] Remote login

2010-03-26 Thread Luke
Wouldn't OpenVPN be a bit more robust for that application? Not that ssh is the wrong way, just that if you know the endpoints most of the time, OpenVPN gives you a more stable connection. It also has the upside of not having much issue with firewalls. Luke On Sat, 27 Mar 2010, David Godfrey w

Re: [Ledger-smb-users] Remote login

2010-03-26 Thread David Godfrey
Hi Richard, Please contact me off list. I have a set of scripts that should allow you do "painlessly" make remote connections via an ssh tunnel. Eventually I will publish these scripts at http://www.sbts.com.au/lsmb/addons.php but for now there is a bit too much modification required for any s

Re: [Ledger-smb-users] Remote login

2010-03-26 Thread Luke
You need to post the relevant portion of the apache error log. On Fri, 26 Mar 2010, beamends wrote: > Hi All, > not strictly a LSMB issue. > > I'm trying to login from a remote location (i.e. the other side of our > router), but after the "small" login screen that usually vanishes to be > re

[Ledger-smb-users] Remote login

2010-03-26 Thread beamends
Hi All, not strictly a LSMB issue. I'm trying to login from a remote location (i.e. the other side of our router), but after the "small" login screen that usually vanishes to be replaced by the real LSMB login screen Apache throws up "Internal Server Error". I've been here before but for the l