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2011-05-08 Thread Richard Naef
> According to > http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons/lib/research/rp99/r > p99-111.pdf > life expectancy for a UK male has gone from about 70 to about > 75 in between > 1981 & 2011 - say 7,5% increase, I can't find the exact > figures at the moment but productivity per worker over the >

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2011-05-07 Thread matt
from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: "Dr. Michael Benjamin. " Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 11:58:36 To: m...@leeds-united.net Cc: Mark Humphries; Leeds list; Jim Moran; DaveSowden; LEEDS List Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? There can never ever b

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2011-05-07 Thread Chris Nickson
I have to agree with Dr. Mike on this, although my heart feels that ManU fans should be deprived of all voting rights, just because. There can never ever be a bar to voting no matter what the erstwhile 'good ' reason. The minute you permit anyone to ' define' eligibility then along come someone

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2011-05-07 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin.
org > Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 09:09:29 > To: 'Jim Moran'; 'Dave Sowden' > Cc: 'LEEDS List' > Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? > > I find compulsory voting an affront to freedom of speech. Or the freedom to > not speak. > > If people don&

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-07 Thread matt
leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 09:09:29 To: 'Jim Moran'; 'Dave Sowden' Cc: 'LEEDS List' Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? I find compulsory voting an affront to freedom of speech. Or the freedom to not speak. If people don't know or don&#

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2011-05-07 Thread Mark Humphries
nswer - how exciting! -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Jim Moran Sent: 07 May 2011 08:29 To: Dave Sowden Cc: LEEDS List Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? Or, 26% of the electorate said no, 14% said yes and 60% couldn'

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2011-05-07 Thread Chris Nickson
An overwhelming majority of voters thought Leeds should be heavily fined and docked 15 points. > > What was the results of voting on Thursday? > > Dr Michael Benjamin, > Community Psychiatrist ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailma

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2011-05-07 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
Were there Local Elections too? Michael Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Con

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2011-05-07 Thread Jim Moran
Or, 26% of the electorate said no, 14% said yes and 60% couldn't be bothered either way. How's about a referendum on compulsory voting next time? On 7 May 2011, at 08:25, Dave Sowden wrote: > > >> >> What was the results of voting on Thursday? >> >> Dr Michael Benjamin, >> Community Psychiatr

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2011-05-07 Thread Dave Sowden
> > What was the results of voting on Thursday? > > Dr Michael Benjamin, > Community Psychiatrist They tried to make us vote for AV, we said No, No, No.Yes vote at 32.1% and the No vote at 67.9%. ... unless the FA disciplinary committee believes there has been malpractice and awards the

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2011-05-06 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
What was the results of voting on Thursday? Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Qualit

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2011-05-06 Thread Damian Walsh
According to http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons/lib/research/rp99/rp99-111.pdf life expectancy for a UK male has gone from about 70 to about 75 in between 1981 & 2011 - say 7,5% increase, I can't find the exact figures at the moment but productivity per worker over the same period has incre

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2011-05-06 Thread Damian Walsh
As I said, "invest[ment] into productive enterprise" - if you are a baker, you probably won't be able to manually make bread anymore (in economically significant quantities) once your in your 70s - if though you invest in a bread making machine with some of your surplus during your productive years

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2011-05-05 Thread Michael Walsh
HEAR HEAR ! Damian Walsh wrote: > PS my first IS job in 1985 was reprogramming pension schemes to allow > "premium holes" and "premium holidays" so that the employers contributions > did not have to be paid. Class Traitor.. :-) ___

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2011-05-05 Thread Richard Naef
> > Final Salary pensions are perfectly sustainable if they are > properly funded, and if the funding is invested into > productive enterprise (for want of a better word). I have to say I couldn't agree less. Contributions make up a small part of the final pot., it is the predictions of growt

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2011-05-04 Thread barbaraville
On 04/05/2011 21:44, Damian Walsh wrote: PS my first IS job in 1985 was reprogramming pension schemes to allow "premium holes" and "premium holidays" so that the employers contributions did not have to be paid. Class Traitor.. :-) ___

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2011-05-04 Thread Damian Walsh
Final Salary pensions are perfectly sustainable if they are properly funded, and if the funding is invested into productive enterprise (for want of a better word). Today's problem with Final Salary Pensions is the funding. Public Service pensions are unfunded with the govt making guarantees out of

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2011-05-04 Thread Damian Walsh
Don't worry about "anti-lawyer abuse" on this list. I think you'll find that we're all very "pro lawyer-abuse" here! Damian ;) On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Ian Murray wrote: > > > *braces self for anti-lawyer abuse* > > ___ Leedslist mailing list In

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2011-05-04 Thread Ian Murray
unich.de; rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: RE: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 17:55:47 +0100 The benefit of the retrospectoscope is that it’s based on cold hard facts, not mystical powers. Like the assumption Major wouldn’t have invested in public services wi

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
urray [mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com] Sent: 04 May 2011 17:40 To: mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk Cc: rhe...@mis-munich.de; rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: RE: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? Whereas obviously you're seeing all this through the retrospectoscope. Hind

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2011-05-04 Thread barbaraville
On 04/05/2011 14:23, Mark Humphries wrote: Either way you look at it, it is Blair/Brown/Darling to blame, not Cameron, not Clegg, not FPTP, not the Queen and not Ken Bates. And just how do you know it's not Ken Bates, Mark? Whio knows what shit the old beardy bastard is dreaming up with his

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2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
;slash and burn" cuts and to trust their economic nouse, and some people believe him. -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Richard Naef Sent: 04 May 2011 17:25 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good o

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2011-05-04 Thread Ian Murray
e for adopting your pedantry, the Tories did not get in. They had to form a coalition to form a government. > From: mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk > To: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com > CC: rhe...@mis-munich.de; rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk; > leedslist@gn.apc.org > Subject: RE: [LU

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2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
; Richard Naef; Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? We would have been in a much worse position under the Tories 1997-2008 since they would have made vast improvements to healthcare, the schooling system, ema, minimum wage etc etc etc. ___ Leedslist

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2011-05-04 Thread Richard Naef
> I can see this is all upsetting you, so I will just say it > doesn't matter what the tories (or libdems) thought about the > deregulation of the financial services sector, Labour did the > deed, no one else. I also don't remember reading any other > chancellor in the developed world claimin

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2011-05-04 Thread Ian Murray
Ian Murray [mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com] > Sent: 04 May 2011 14:59 > To: Mark Humphries > Cc: Robert Heath; Richard Naef; > Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? > > OK mate. I'll defer to your supreme knowledge of macroeconomic affairs. All > I'll say is you conve

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2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
52. -Original Message- From: Ian Murray [mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com] Sent: 04 May 2011 14:59 To: Mark Humphries Cc: Robert Heath; Richard Naef; Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? OK mate. I'll defer to your supreme knowledge of macroeconomic affairs. All I'll say i

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2011-05-04 Thread Ian Murray
hope for a sustained recovery) is Oik and Dave's fault. Ably assisted by Cleggster > > What a shitter. Indeed. > > -Original Message- > From: Ian Murray. [mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com] > VSent: 04 May 2011 14:00 > To: Mark Humphries > Cc: Robert Heath

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2011-05-04 Thread matt
c.org Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 11:57:34 To: 'Robert Heath'; 'Richard Naef'; Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? Collecting the extra tax revenue from those idiot tourists (from UK and overseas) who came into town to watch the poncey horses and raf jet? And broadcasting right

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2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? >>PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. ;-)<< Ah, you need to get in touch with your inner anorak ;-) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: ht

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2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
otmail.com] Sent: 04 May 2011 14:00 To: Mark Humphries Cc: Robert Heath; Richard Naef; Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? Maybe we can use the cake and pop tax revenue to fill this deficit you seem so concerned about? Or no, we have to offset that against the net loss to the economy of billio

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2011-05-04 Thread Ian Murray
all the street parties? > > -Original Message- > From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On > Behalf Of Robert Heath > Sent: 04 May 2011 10:54 > To: Richard Naef; leedslist@gn.apc.org > Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? > > S

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2011-05-04 Thread MarkBursa
>>PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. ;-)<< Ah, you need to get in touch with your inner anorak ;-) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsub

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2011-05-04 Thread Sean Emmott
On 04/05/2011 11:50, Tim Leslie wrote: PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. ;-) I only saw the flypast on the news, having spent the day building a bin store Didn't work though did it? They still found him. ___ Leedslist maili

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2011-05-04 Thread Ian Murray
Sorry pal but I was talking about the benefits of us having a written constitution and being a Republic. Dunno how this became a party political debate about economics! You shouldn't assume I'm a labour supporter (I am, but you shouldn't assume!). :-) Sent from my iPhone On 4 May 2011, at 10

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2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Robert Heath Sent: 04 May 2011 10:54 To: Richard Naef; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? Since this long political thread has come round to the subject of The Cuts, perhaps I could link it back to

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2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
Last time Rob paid taxes I think the Lancaster/hurricane and spitfire were defending us :-) -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Tim Leslie Sent: 04 May 2011 11:12 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good

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2011-05-04 Thread Tim Leslie
PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. ;-) I only saw the flypast on the news, having spent the day building a bin store and clearing out loads of rubbish. > >>>As for the RAF Jets, most of the planes were decommisioned ones. If we > are > still being defended by Spitfires

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2011-05-04 Thread MarkBursa
>>As for the RAF Jets, most of the planes were decommisioned ones. If we are still being defended by Spitfires, Lancaster Bombers and Typhoons then we are in the sh*t if someone attacks us ala 1941<< We are still very much being defended by Typhoons! It's what the RAF calls a Eurofi

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2011-05-04 Thread Peter Cass
y 04, 2011 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? Since this long political thread has come round to the subject of The Cuts, perhaps I could link it back to the original issue. I understood that the good old generous Royals footed the bill for the so-called wedding, and all the rest of

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2011-05-04 Thread Tim Leslie
Well the 'prancing around on horses' bit is pretty self explanatory as they are called the Household Cavalry. As for the RAF Jets, most of the planes were decommisioned ones. If we are still being defended by Spitfires, Lancaster Bombers and Typhoons then we are in the sh*t if someone attacks us al

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2011-05-04 Thread Robert Heath
Since this long political thread has come round to the subject of The Cuts, perhaps I could link it back to the original issue. I understood that the good old generous Royals footed the bill for the so-called wedding, and all the rest of us had to do was stump up the paltry 20 million quid for

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2011-05-04 Thread Richard Naef
> But anyway, your analogy about lancing the boil fits very > well with the structural deficit plans over 4, not 5 years. SNIP > only difference was the timing of and depth of the initial cuts. trouble is the "major cuts" aren't really major - despite the real pain that will be caused to man

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2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
And Labour's plan to reduce the deficit wouldn't be called "slash and burn"? How different was their plan? But anyway, your analogy about lancing the boil fits very well with the structural deficit plans over 4, not 5 years. One could argue that Labours idea to delay the "slash and burn" by 1 yea

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2011-05-04 Thread Ian Murray
- > From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On > Behalf Of Ian Murray > Sent: 03 May 2011 22:52 > To: Joe Skinner > Cc: LEEDSLIST > Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? > > > It hurts when you lance a boil, and a boil doesn't kill you, but

[LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-03 Thread Mark Humphries
: LEEDSLIST Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? It hurts when you lance a boil, and a boil doesn't kill you, but we all know that in the long term you're better off having lanced it. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.green

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2011-05-03 Thread Ian Murray
> security specifically for some people etc. > > I don't really car either way, no one can disprove or not the theory that > they are good for tourism but if you look at this weekend alone, that means > if they're not, then there are at least 1,000,000 stone col

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2011-05-03 Thread Mark Humphries
anjamesmur...@hotmail.com] Sent: 03 May 2011 13:03 To: Mark Humphries Cc: ; Leeds list; LEEDSLIST Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? Right, I rather imagine that this is becoming slightly boring for everyone (me included), but I have to respond to this email as it is pretty insulting. You suggest that the whole

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2011-05-03 Thread Ian Murray
Can't really be arsed to trawl through lawtel and show examples for you but HRA was a game changer which fundamentally altered the course of our jurisprudence. All legislation is to be interpreted through the prism of the HRA, and when the two clash the HRA is supreme. In other words, the judici

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2011-05-03 Thread Ian Murray
ople with money I'd start with footballers or their ilk - but > its all the same thing. They were lucky to be born with football skills, > some kids are lucky to be born to a successful businessman in the family. > That’s life, I just get on with mine! > > > -Orig

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2011-05-03 Thread Chris Briggs
Ian, Whilst I agree that the most vulnerable people in society do indeed require some form of protection, my point that most of the principles included within the ECHR and then enacted into English law via the HRA were already the subjects of various acts of parliament is still valid. All the H

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2011-05-03 Thread Mark Humphries
...@hotmail.com] Sent: 03 May 2011 11:47 To: Mark Humphries Cc: ; Leeds list; LEEDSLIST Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? I do pay for them to swan around. Their travel is paid for out of public funds, their civil list income is paid for out of public funds. I clearly literally do pay them money. Why s

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2011-05-03 Thread Ian Murray
n the UK, or Cuba, or China, or France, > or Libya, or USA. To blame that on the Queen is ridiculous. > > -Original Message- > From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On > Behalf Of Ian Murray > Sent: 02 May 2011 14:12 > To: m...

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2011-05-03 Thread Ian Murray
Hi Chris, well aware of this. The HRA is the main piece of constitutional legislation in this country which guarantees the rights of individuals. It is the most vulnerable people in our society who require it's protection the most when the executive seeks to erode those rights (as it frequently

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-05-03 Thread Mark Humphries
leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Ian Murray Sent: 02 May 2011 14:12 To: m...@leeds-united.net Cc: Leeds list; LEEDSLIST Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? So, of all the tourists you bump into on your way to work, or whatever, you give them a detailed questionnaire o

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2011-05-03 Thread Chris Briggs
Morning Ian, Damian was indeed alluding to the HRA. and the way the judiciary is using it to protect the individual against the state (as it is designed to do) I think that is a little unfair on the judiciary as it is a broad sweeping statement with nothing to back it up. The judiciary (Jud

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2011-05-02 Thread John Boocock
Next time you're up head out to Knoydart. That'll make yer legs ache, Ian. Cold here tonight, frost! Betty On 2 May 2011 23:44, "Ian Murray" wrote: > Yeah could say that. Cold up there n all. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2 May 2011, at 23:23, barbaravi...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On 02/05/2011 22:

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2011-05-02 Thread barbaraville
On 02/05/2011 22:16, Ian Murray wrote: We went up the 'tourist trail' now rebadged as 'mountain track'. Painful on the calves like. Still a trip everyone should take. Good views on the top? bETTY ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http:/

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2011-05-02 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin
Norwich won automatic promotion. So it was doable. Just not by us! Sent from my iPad Dr. Michael Benjamin Community Psychiatrist On May 2, 2011, at 10:16 PM, Ian Murray wrote: > We went up the 'tourist trail' now rebadged as 'mountain track'. Painful on > the calves like. > > Sent from my i

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2011-05-02 Thread Ian Murray
We went up the 'tourist trail' now rebadged as 'mountain track'. Painful on the calves like. Sent from my iPhone On 2 May 2011, at 17:40, barbaravi...@gmail.com wrote: > On 02/05/2011 17:04, Ian Murray wrote: >> The know-all was right Betty > > Ian those wre reverse groats :-) > > Which route

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2011-05-02 Thread Ian Murray
I think he's talking about the human rights act, and the way the judiciary is using it to protect the individual against the state (as it is designed to do), and how our current government is doing it's best to have it repealed and jumping up and down about how 'Parliament knows best'. If we h

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-05-02 Thread Ed Morrish
your kind words > > -Original Message- > From: Eric B [mailto:barl...@gmail.com] > Sent: 02 May 2011 16:12 > To: Steve Gillen > Cc: Ian Murray; LEEDSLIST > Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? > > Steve > > I have no problem with you. We have in fact met in early 2000s

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2011-05-02 Thread Simon Austin
On 02/05/2011 17:42, Nicholas Armit wrote: Sorry, but did all you royalists get 2 days off for the wedding? I thought The Thatch got rid of the May Bank Holiday...(could be well off base here). Off base... http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/feb/04/may-day-tradition-margaret-thatcher With an

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2011-05-02 Thread Chris Briggs
...the judiciary have powers that don't derive from Parliament. Damian, Could you expand what you mean, I'm curious. Cheers Chris ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To uns

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2011-05-02 Thread Steve Gillen
: Ian Murray; LEEDSLIST Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? Steve I have no problem with you. We have in fact met in early 2000s, I met you and your lovely wife outside of ER to give you some tickets I got for you. I dont remember which game it was but Im sure we won! Im currently looking for a job and Im

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2011-05-02 Thread Nicholas Armit
t: Re: [LU] Good omen? On 02/05/2011 16:21, Damian Walsh wrote: > our Constitutional Monarchy > perpetuates a system that allows some gimp to have his wedding up some big church and then a bash for 600 afterwards whilst there is a strong case for Invergordon Registry Office and 120 bring

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2011-05-02 Thread barbaraville
On 02/05/2011 17:04, Ian Murray wrote: The know-all was right Betty Ian those wre reverse groats :-) Which route did you use for the Beinn? Carn Mor Dearg Ridge is the very chap! Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-

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2011-05-02 Thread Ian Murray
The know-all was right Betty. I spent quite alot of my hard earned in the far North. I decided to camp in Glen Nevis and climb the mountain this weekend to escape all the cr@p. Good few pots of real ale at the end in the Ben Nevis Inn (or whatever it's called). I can heartily recommend crofters

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2011-05-02 Thread barbaraville
On 02/05/2011 16:21, Damian Walsh wrote: our Constitutional Monarchy perpetuates a system that allows some gimp to have his wedding up some big church and then a bash for 600 afterwards whilst there is a strong case for Invergordon Registry Office and 120 bringing a bottle and some food to P

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2011-05-02 Thread Damian Walsh
Seriously though - the "economic" argument is a huge red herring. If the only objection to Royalty was their cost then I think we would all prefer to pay for them rather than risk some of the clowns that "preside" over other countries. However, as someone already alluded to, our Constitutional Mo

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2011-05-02 Thread Eric B
point you may > have been making > > -Original Message- > From: eric Barlier [mailto:barl...@gmail.com] > Sent: 02 May 2011 14:49 > To: Ian Murray > Cc: Steve Gillen; LEEDSLIST > Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? > > oh my dear... steve you are not "the coldest beer

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2011-05-02 Thread matt
contribute Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: "Robert Heath" Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 16:15:12 To: Ian Murray; Cc: Leeds list; LEEDSLIST Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? Just catching up on the parasitology thread. Have to say that Ian Murray is wipin

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2011-05-02 Thread matt
work as a trade ambassador Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Ian Murray Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 14:11:55 To: m...@leeds-united.net Cc: Leeds list; Steve Gillen; LEEDSLIST Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? So, of all the tourists you bump into on your way to work, o

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2011-05-02 Thread Andy Clayton
t; gawp at how stupid you are" which tends to destroy any viable point you may > have been making > > -Original Message- > From: eric Barlier [mailto:barl...@gmail.com] > Sent: 02 May 2011 14:49 > To: Ian Murray > Cc: Steve Gillen; LEEDSLIST > Subject: Re: [LU] G

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2011-05-02 Thread Ian Murray
ming to > gawp at how stupid you are" which tends to destroy any viable point you may > have been making > > -Original Message- > From: eric Barlier [mailto:barl...@gmail.com] > Sent: 02 May 2011 14:49 > To: Ian Murray > Cc: Steve Gillen; LEEDSLIST > Subject:

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2011-05-02 Thread Steve Gillen
to destroy any viable point you may have been making -Original Message- From: eric Barlier [mailto:barl...@gmail.com] Sent: 02 May 2011 14:49 To: Ian Murray Cc: Steve Gillen; LEEDSLIST Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? oh my dear... steve you are not "the coldest beer in the fridge"

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2011-05-02 Thread Robert Heath
Just catching up on the parasitology thread. Have to say that Ian Murray is wiping the floor with the Royalists. As for the latter, is the spurious "fact" that the so-called Royals generate a big tourist income the best argument you can come up with in their favour? Even if that were provably t

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2011-05-02 Thread eric Barlier
oh my dear... steve you are not "the coldest beer in the fridge" when it comes to UK royal history, thats pretty evident. Do you know how "foreign" your royalties are? Who in the royal family is not of foreign heritage? In fact the french royalties were often close allies in war, as well as en

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2011-05-02 Thread Ian Murray
which we don't > have, the wine tourism, skiing, surfing, etc... They have so much more > because they are bigger. > > Anyway how are Leeds doing?? > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > > -Original Message- > From: Ian Murray >

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-05-01 Thread matt
gn.apc.org Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 22:03:14 To: Steve Gillen Cc: LEEDSLIST Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? PS No, sorry, you're right. People come to the UK in the actual expectation of meeting the Queen and all her little parasitic little children. That's the only reason and nobody wou

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-05-01 Thread Ian Murray
At least we'd get to vote for em. The very concept that someone is seen as being better and more important than someone else by virtue of their ancestors killing more folk is completely and utterly perverse. It won't last for that much longer. Sent from my iPhone On 1 May 2011, at 22:11, "Dr.

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-05-01 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin
When you get a serial rapist as president, not to mention a whole list of degenerates in other places, having one family bearing, bringing up and training from birth a sovereign not to be a complete dangerous arsehole has a few attractions. The best thing to be said about monarchy is that ever

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-05-01 Thread Ian Murray
PS No, sorry, you're right. People come to the UK in the actual expectation of meeting the Queen and all her little parasitic little children. That's the only reason and nobody would ever dream of coming here if we got rid if them. Sorry for getting that so wrong. Sent from my iPhone On 1 May

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-05-01 Thread Ian Murray
People go to Paris for the weather? Sent from my iPhone On 1 May 2011, at 21:52, "Steve Gillen" wrote: > > They have wormer weather and better food than us, hence more visitors, > > > France is the most visited country on earth and they did to their royalty > what we should have done centur

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-05-01 Thread Steve Gillen
They have wormer weather and better food than us, hence more visitors, France is the most visited country on earth and they did to their royalty what we should have done centuries ago. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-05-01 Thread Ian Murray
ies" wrote: > 100% > > If you want a republic, there are countries you can go to.. > > -Original Message- > From: Ian Murray [mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com] > Sent: 01 May 2011 16:32 > To: Mark Humphries > Cc: Mark Stephenson; LEEDSLIS

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-05-01 Thread Paul Cundell
I thought the original point was whether QE2 wearing Yellow and Blue was a good omen. Well, she did, and we won, so was it? How do we get her to wear it every week? Another letter to Lord Harewood? Cheers Paul Steve G wrote: Which neatly beings us back to my original point - or what I was tryin

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-05-01 Thread Steve Gillen
: 01 May 2011 20:40 To: 'Ian Murray' Cc: 'LEEDSLIST' Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? 100% If you want a republic, there are countries you can go to.. -Original Message- From: Ian Murray [mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com] Sent: 01 May 2011 16:32 To: Mark Humphries Cc: Mark S

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-05-01 Thread Mark Humphries
100% If you want a republic, there are countries you can go to.. -Original Message- From: Ian Murray [mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com] Sent: 01 May 2011 16:32 To: Mark Humphries Cc: Mark Stephenson; LEEDSLIST Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? She has no say constitutionally? Sure about

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-05-01 Thread Ian Murray
, fabulous history and some > people would be happier with streets full of portacabins and president > Cameron as the head of state. > > -Original Message- > From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On > Behalf Of Mark Stephenson > Sent: 3

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-05-01 Thread Mark Humphries
slist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Mark Stephenson Sent: 30 April 2011 20:31 To: 'LEEDSLIST' Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? Matt I think you'll find that that most of the tourists come to look at the old houses of the current royal family's dead relatives. If anyone thinks that t

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-05-01 Thread Mark Humphries
phries Cc: 'leedslist'; 'Simon Hart'; e...@morrish.org Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? by all means pay for the old bag and Phil the Greek if it's to support tourism, but all those bloody chancers with their snouts in the trough as well? I think not! --- On Sat, 30/4/11,

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-05-01 Thread Matt Anderson
; Mark Humphries; John Lee; leedslist; Eric B Subject: Re: RE: [LU] Good omen? Yes, thank God for Prince Andrew: drinking with convicted paedophiles so that you don't have to. Ed. On 1 May 2011 11:00, "Matt Anderson" wrote: > I would add Prince Andrew into that. > >

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-05-01 Thread Ed Morrish
g] On > Behalf Of John Lee > Sent: 30 April 2011 22:51 > To: 'Eric B'; 'Steve Gillen'; Mark Humphries > Cc: 'leedslist'; 'Simon Hart'; e...@morrish.org > Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? > > > > by all means pay for the old bag and Phil the G

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-05-01 Thread Matt Anderson
From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of John Lee Sent: 30 April 2011 22:51 To: 'Eric B'; 'Steve Gillen'; Mark Humphries Cc: 'leedslist'; 'Simon Hart'; e...@morrish.org Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? by all means p

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-05-01 Thread Matt Anderson
I’ve no idea an don’t really care. From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Mark Stephenson Sent: 30 April 2011 20:31 To: 'LEEDSLIST' Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? Matt I think you'll find that that most of the tourists come to

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-04-30 Thread John Lee
by all means pay for the old bag and Phil the Greek if it's to support tourism, but all those bloody chancers with their snouts in the trough as well? I think not! --- On Sat, 30/4/11, Mark Humphries wrote: From: Mark Humphries Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? To: "'Eric B

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-04-30 Thread Mark Stephenson
K be looking at introducing pharaohs and pyramids also. Mark -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Michael ALCOCK Sent: Sunday, 1 May 2011 4:28 AM To: m...@leeds-united.net Cc: leedslist; Simon Hart; e...@morrish.org Subject: Re:

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-04-30 Thread Matt Anderson
...@googlemail.com] o Sent: 30 April 2011 19:28 To: m...@leeds-united.net Cc: Mark Humphries; leedslist; Simon Hart; e...@morrish.org Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? Matt, Where's the evidence for the that figure? I'm always told the Royal Family are a net financial benefit to the UK, but

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-04-30 Thread Michael ALCOCK
travel half way round the world to be here too. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] > On > > Behalf Of Eric B > > Sent: 30 April 2011 09:11 > > To: Steve Gillen > > Cc: leedslist; e..

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