RE: Crank handle indexing

Defiantly a good thing to know I admit I should use that method more. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Wednesday, 9 June 2021 10:33 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Crank handle indexing thanks Mike, I w

Joe can you post your photos on this link?

Hello Everyone,  the Sound of... and Roping link has taken a turn from its intended goal.   This is not a bad thing, but in order to archive this, It would be much easer to start a new link.Joe your modified Legacy and, your methods of roping, should be made easer for others to find in the futur

Re: Crank handle indexing

Hello Everyone. Thanks Mike. All Good STUFF ! ;-) C.A.G. On Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 08:38:58 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler wrote: thanks Mike, I will get this formula wrote down and laminated. I do have all the plates too for my 1200 as I ordered them when i first got going. But I know I need to

Re: Crank handle indexing

thanks Mike, I will get this formula wrote down and laminated. I do have all the plates too for my 1200 as I ordered them when i first got going. But I know I need to learn this and get it stuck up in the head. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Forest

Re: Crank handle indexing

Let's say we are doing 3/8 flutes with 3/8" space between them on a 4-3/4 round stock Either wrap a tape around and see what the circumference is or 4.75 x 3.14 (Pi)= 15" circumference. 3/8 flute + 3/8 space = 3/4 or .75 15÷.75 = 20 flutes and spaces 20÷4=5" pitch Mike OK On 6/8/2021 3:26

RE: Crank handle indexing

Sorry mike your right like I said I failed math lol, I have used your crank handle indexing it is good and better I just like messing around with the indexing plates Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Okla Mike (Liltwisted) Sent: Wednesday, 9 June 2021 4:

RE: The Sound Of Silence & Roping

yep From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Wednesday, 9 June 2021 3:26 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Sound Of Silence & Roping and you run that from the front to right Bill? Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler

RE: The Sound Of Silence & Roping

You’re the man joe I was wrong you are the expert on side cutting spiral work I remember your stuff now nice pic it explains it all Bill From: 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Wednesday, 9 June 2021 2:50 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: The Sound Of Silenc

Re: Crank handle indexing

Are you using drive gear D then? On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 1:38 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) wrote: > Come on, it's not that hard... > > https://youtu.be/oHgzEKnON-o > > Crank handle indexing is absolutely the easiest way to reed and bead but > will only make a mess of roping. > > Very simple, how m

Re: Crank handle indexing

I guess I still get lost on the pitch etc... How do you decide how many flutes or reeds you need. Let me look at my sheet and see. I'm into antiques this week So little distracted.v TZ On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 1:38 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) wrote: > Come on, it's not that hard... > > https://yo

Crank handle indexing

Come on, it's not that hard... https://youtu.be/oHgzEKnON-o Crank handle indexing is absolutely the easiest way to reed and bead but will only make a mess of roping. Very simple, how many beads do you need?  Lets say 24 all you have to do now is divide by 4 teeth per inch (on the acme sc

Re: The Sound Of Silence & Roping

Starting a new thread On 6/8/2021 12:25 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: Yeah I worked as a tooling technician for over 20 years of my 27 year career at WoodCraft Industries Inc. and some interesting math to work with tool geometry, knife marks per inch calculations, radius, tool healing clearance angle

Re: The Sound Of Silence & Roping

Hey Joe, Thanks for the input. Who posted the pic with the angled router? I would like more pix of that design. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 11:50 AM 'finu...@aol.com

Re: The Sound Of Silence & Roping

and you run that from the front to right Bill? Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 8:57 AM wrote: > Yes template work is where the revo holds its own > > > > Bill > > > > *

Re: The Sound Of Silence & Roping

Yeah I worked as a tooling technician for over 20 years of my 27 year career at WoodCraft Industries Inc. and some interesting math to work with tool geometry, knife marks per inch calculations, radius, tool healing clearance angle, chip loads, positive and negative hook ufff. Good thing the ca

Re: The Sound Of Silence & Roping

Joe, Wow! Very nice. Thanks. That picture says a lot - vs describing it. Mac -Original Message- From: 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent:

RE: The Sound Of Silence & Roping

Yes template work is where the revo holds its own Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2021 11:42 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Sound Of Silence & Roping Yeah I'll have to put my template

RE: The Sound Of Silence & Roping

I understand I don’t use his method I like to keep it real simple I use either my gauge blocks or index plates which I mark the correct holes with a sharpy it cleans off easy enough when finished I failed math at school lol. You think mikes math is hard I used to have to mill gears on a miller i

Re: The Sound Of Silence & Roping

Yeah I'll have to put my template follower back on to try that. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 8:36 AM wrote: > Thanks curt. > > I forgot to mention template turning,

Re: The Sound Of Silence & Roping

Thanks Bill I value your opinion so thanks for sharing that. I am still trying to wrap my head around the math Mike used in his video too. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at

RE: The Sound Of Silence & Roping

Thanks curt. I forgot to mention template turning, on the legacy without mods template work is all done from the side Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2021 11:07 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Sound Of Silence

RE: The Sound Of Silence & Roping

Well now this is my opinion from the side gives different shapes of the rope than from the top I’m not a great lover of side cutting but you can get unique shapes curt is the side cutting expert also your limited to smaller dia ropes and yes long small dia will need support. Also reeds and flute

Re: The Sound Of Silence & Roping

yup sounds good like I mentioned I will get this topic going in another post so we can go into some deep discussion. Maybe at lunch I will have my pix shrunk to start that post. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320

Re: The Sound Of Silence & Roping

Ok Guys so I've been doing most everything from top. What advantages are you seeing doing it from the side? I'd see needing the same supports but am I wrong? Curt, I'm going to post those posts I made here soon in a separate post and would like to see if we get some feed back from others too but fo

RE: The Sound Of Silence & Roping

I pretty much do all my rope this way eather from the side or down from the top as in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kr5VFFwsAs &ab_channel=WATOPWATOP Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills