Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names

2007-08-20 Thread Dermot McGlone
In the Irish phone books, Mac and Mc appear together. They are both treated as Mac for filing purposes, therefore appearing after Mab... and before Mad... Names like Macken would appear in the middle of all the McK's, for example. Spaces, if the exist between the Mc and the remainder of the name,

Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names

2007-08-18 Thread stone1322
; > Date: 2007/08/17 Fri PM 07:55:35 EST > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names > > Sorry to say but libraries using AACR2 (now revised) rules when > cataloguing have two treatments - Dutch names get alphabetised by > first capi

Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names

2007-08-17 Thread Tracy Skegg
Sorry to say but libraries using AACR2 (now revised) rules when cataloguing have two treatments - Dutch names get alphabetised by first capital letter while English names using van Helsing etc get alphabetised by van. When I did cataloguing I had to check with the author on which treatment to use.

Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names

2007-08-17 Thread SKL 1750
cyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, 17 August, 2007 7:53:58 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names Its not "all Personal" Look in the Dutch phonebook. Sorting is without "de" , "van de", "van" aso. Thats just the reason why the translation teams strongly

Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names

2007-08-17 Thread Phil Warn
At 18:53 17/08/2007, Bert van Kootwijk wrote: Its not "all Personal" Look in the Dutch phonebook. Sorting is without "de" , "van de", "van" aso. Thats just the reason why the translation teams strongly request this type of sorting. Look for instance at Brothers Keeper which has this feature

Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names

2007-08-17 Thread Elizabeth Cunningham
" is sorted under "K" . Bert - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: Re

Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names

2007-08-17 Thread Tom Weiss
I respectfully disagree. We file great composers under the major part of their name: Beethoven, not von Beethoven; Falla, not de Falla. Tom On 8/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If I'm not mistaken... the "de", "von", "van" are part of the surname and > should be treate

Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names

2007-08-17 Thread Bert van Kootwijk
years. Bert - Original Message - From: SKL 1750 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names Hello all, I think it's all personal. You have to accept that no matter how you sort it, you&

Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names

2007-08-17 Thread SKL 1750
iginal Message From: Karl Plenge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, 17 August, 2007 12:17:47 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names How do Europeans typically sort...with or without the de's, von's, etc? Have you unlocked t

Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names

2007-08-17 Thread Bert van Kootwijk
milytree.com Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names If I'm not mistaken... the "de", "von", "van" are part of the surname and should be treated as such (despite the fact that the translation is as simple as &q

Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names

2007-08-17 Thread TaylorResearch4u
If I'm not mistaken... the "de", "von", "van" are part of the surname and should be treated as such (despite the fact that the translation is as simple as "of". If a person is named Wilhelm Von Friesburg - his surname is Von Friesburg... Friesburg (supposition) is the name of the place his

Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names

2007-08-16 Thread Karl Plenge
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Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names

2007-08-16 Thread Bert van Kootwijk
This is asked many times by the several Legacy translationteams in Europe. This one of most important wishes. Bert - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 10:02 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names Hello, I have a num