Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form

2010-10-17 Thread Carl Cox
Rich S wrote: <> You do not need to be Mormon to use Beta.familysearch.org, or the original Familysearch.org. They do not contain the new integrated genealogy, but have much data from original records as well as older genealogy databases. Carl Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.Lega

RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology

2010-10-17 Thread M. Brenzel
Helen, Just to add my two cents on the subject of location fields and Legacy "terminology". I live in the U.S. and I have chosen not to use the 4-field format. So you may think that it's a U.S. thing but it doesn't fit into what I do with Legacy either. Like Ron, I found that I can put the full

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology

2010-10-17 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
They do. If you want to see it, change the language to a different English. The forms (FGS, descendant, etc.) have different wording. I switch between American, Spanish, Norwegian-Tronder, Swedish and French. You can send forms to relatives in their language/dialect. Rich in LA CA --- On Sun, 1

RE: [LegacyUG] how big?

2010-10-17 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
I don't think there is a norm, I use mydb.***, then for a new gedcom new.***. Rich in LA CA --- On Sun, 10/17/10, Carol Costa wrote: From: Carol Costa Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] how big? To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 9:26 AM I have about 20,000 in my

Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form

2010-10-17 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Are you a Mormon that is registered on line with newFamilySearch? I am not Mormon so about Christmas, NFS is hoping to be able to open the new database to the general public. Until then, we can only access the old way. I could not tell your status from your note. Rich in LA CA --- On Sat, 10/

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology

2010-10-17 Thread Elizabeth Cunningham
What do the British or others use for citations in scholarly papers? The Chicago Manual of Style is a lot used, but when I typed my husband's Master's thesis (in philosophy), he had to use the MLA (Modern Language Association) style guide. So what style guides are used in Europe or South Africa? I

Re: [LegacyUG] How to cite this source?

2010-10-17 Thread Terri Brown
Jean, I'm happy to hear my suggestion worked. Personally, I stick with the "family papers" source for those newspaper clippings where the source information is unknown. I don't have a generic newspaper clipping source. I don't necessarily have anything against using one, I just haven't had the ne

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology

2010-10-17 Thread Mark Lang
Hello Helen, Ron is correct. I did start writing The Legacy Family sometime during Legacy 5 actually, missed the 6 release and just made it for version 7. There were in fact many ideas I wanted to incorporate into the book, they never made it, so I held these concepts over the fo

RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology

2010-10-17 Thread Charles Apple
Ron, Thank you. Your explanation really does help. Charles -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 5:02 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology Charles, That is absolutely correct

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology

2010-10-17 Thread Ron Ferguson
Sorry, Charles, I should have been a bit more specific re. my website; look for the Residence Event. A good direct link would be http://www.fergys.co.uk/genealogy/19.php Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -- From: "Charles Apple" Sent: Sunday, Oc

Re: [LegacyUG] how big?

2010-10-17 Thread Laura Johnson
don't stop now. I am just shy of 50,000 at this point and I have a long way to go to finish entering all of the documents from one town in Sicily. I couldn't get my file to function properly in FTM 2008, 2009, or 2010 and I have fully switched to Legacy 6, then 7 without any problems at all. O

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology

2010-10-17 Thread Ron Ferguson
Charles, That is absolutely correct. There are few, or no, restrictions on the Location Field. If you go to the Master Location List and look at the sort list it is sorted from biggest to smallest, it doesn't matter what the names are, the biggest to smallest is true for all countries. So with tha

RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology

2010-10-17 Thread Charles Apple
Ron, Please correct me if I am wrong. As I understand from your post, the limitations of the location fields in Legacy, are self imposed by the user relative to the way he or she perceives location entry, and is not a short coming of Legacy itself. Is my understanding correct or way off base?

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology

2010-10-17 Thread Cheryl Rothwell
I have to ask - they translated Legacy from English in UK -ese??? On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: > Helen, > > No thank you! Legacy is already translated into different languages, > although by no means all, but they do include the UK and Australia. Legacy User Group guid

RE: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form

2010-10-17 Thread JT
Thanks for that info Ron. JT -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 12:33 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form Try: https://beta.familysearch.org/s/search/index/record-sea

Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form

2010-10-17 Thread circe
> You will find excellent directions in the Legacy Help File. I've studied it and tried it and got nowhere. Many thanks from me too for your help. Helen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-

Re: [LegacyUG] how big?

2010-10-17 Thread Robert Runion
If each of your separate surname files are in Legacy, there is the 'file --> import from' feature that would permit you to combine them. The issue then is to merge all the duplicates you may have created. If you have the same person with different spellings of the name that could create a situ

Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form

2010-10-17 Thread Gene Young
On 10/17/2010 1:46 PM, K McGee wrote: > Super, Gene! Thanks a lot. > > A few other questions, how did you know to add the last digits; could > I add +[DeathYear] after [BirthYear] and before #10048946? Is the > placement of the items important: if I were to add locations of > birth and death to

Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form

2010-10-17 Thread K McGee
Yep, and it's amazing how easily a person can embarrass themselves by not making sure they know what they're asking: Requesting locations on these forms - not possible. At 07:03 PM 10/17/2010 +0100, you wrote: >Not Gene, but there we go!! > >The best way of leaning about search strings is to sear

Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?

2010-10-17 Thread Robert Runion
Ron - thanks for the explanation - and yes, I want to do convert Detail sourcing data to Master source data which you indicate is not feasible. The only reason I want to convert the data is that I use an iMAC and Legacy does not have a MAC version. I have been so advised that it never will - pi

Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form

2010-10-17 Thread Ron Ferguson
Not Gene, but there we go!! The best way of leaning about search strings is to search for somebody whose details you know. Now copy the string which is in the site's URL and paste it into any text editor, look where the details are, and these are the places to add the Legacy data codes i.e. [First

Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form

2010-10-17 Thread K McGee
Super, Gene! Thanks a lot. A few other questions, how did you know to add the last digits; could I add +[DeathYear] after [BirthYear] and before #10048946? Is the placement of the items important: if I were to add locations of birth and death to this would I have to add them in specific places

Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form

2010-10-17 Thread Gene Young
On 10/17/2010 12:45 PM, K McGee wrote: > THANK YOU!! Perfect! > Now if you could do Footnote . . . > Footnote: http://www.footnote.com/searchdocuments.php?query=[GivenNames]+[LastName]+[BirthYear]#10048946 [ ]=[%20] -- Gene Young Researching Young, Harer, Cox & Sallada With Legacy Fam

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology

2010-10-17 Thread circe
Sorry Ron, I've never had a problem with it (with ancestors in Canada, UK & USA) so can't speak for others outside America. Helen On 17-Oct-10 12:38 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: > Helen, > > With respect, my point was regarding the users who recommend, or insist, or > assume that everyone should/does

RE: [LegacyUG] how big?

2010-10-17 Thread Carol Costa
I have about 20,000 in my file. I’m getting worried about that too. I just can’t seem to stop adding people. Help me……. From: Jonathan & Charity Cordell [mailto:jccord...@att.net] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 10:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] how big? Hi

Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form

2010-10-17 Thread K McGee
THANK YOU!! Perfect! Now if you could do Footnote . . . K At 05:33 PM 10/17/2010 +0100, you wrote: >Try: > >https://beta.familysearch.org/s/search/index/record-search#searchType=records&collectionId=&advanced=false&fed=true&page=1&givenName=[FirstName]&surname=[SurName]&birthYear=[StartYe

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology

2010-10-17 Thread Ron Ferguson
Helen, I know that Mark started writing the book before Legacy7 was published, and although I have not read it myself, my understanding is that it does cover all the basics. Perhaps he could comment himself? Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ --

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology

2010-10-17 Thread Ron Ferguson
Helen, With respect, my point was regarding the users who recommend, or insist, or assume that everyone should/does use the 4 field format stating it to be the standard. It might be in America, but not the rest of the world. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ --

Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form

2010-10-17 Thread Ron Ferguson
Try: https://beta.familysearch.org/s/search/index/record-search#searchType=records&collectionId=&advanced=false&fed=true&page=1&givenName=[FirstName]&surname=[SurName]&birthYear=[StartYear]&birthLocation=&deathYear=[EndYear]&deathLocation=&filtered=false Don't forget to change the second box to r

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology

2010-10-17 Thread circe
> No the problem is with users, who > insist on using and advocating the 4 field format, Seems to me the users are the ones who keep Legacy in business. > and, if you like, the Geo-location databases, which wrongly assume that all > the world uses it. No problem for me, I have

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology

2010-10-17 Thread circe
> Legacy produces an excellent manual on the use of the program, and there is > a book "The Legacy Family" written by Mike Lang and available from Legacy at > http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=5 I checked it out, Ron. Here's what it says in part.. "The Legacy Family

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology

2010-10-17 Thread Ron Ferguson
Helen, No thank you! Legacy is already translated into different languages, although by no means all, but they do include the UK and Australia. The problems with locations in Legacy are actually nothing to do with the way in which the Location field works, it is fine with all English address forma

RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology

2010-10-17 Thread Charles Apple
Just a thought. Many of us have ancestors that originated from many different countries i.e., England, Germany, Scotland, Ireland, France, etc. Instead of different Legacy programs specific to a particular country i.e., Legacy UK, Legacy Canada etc. Why not include these options in Legacy Prefer

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology

2010-10-17 Thread circe
Connie, Two ideas for generating more $$ for Legacy. How about a Legacy UK, or Legacy Canada, or Legacy Australia & New Zealand (if the two can be lumped together), Legacy Latin America flavour? There could be differences in the methods of entering addresses and in the way of entering sources/cita

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology

2010-10-17 Thread Connie Sheets
Actually, Mike, over here the psychologists use the APA reference style, not the Chicago Manual of Style.  There are so many style guides, it makes the head spin. But my point was that Legacy staff did not make up most of the terminology.  The British Medical Association has a webpage that disc

Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard? Clarification

2010-10-17 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 17/10/2010 12:20, Mike Fry wrote: > Surely, "where it came from" is a Repository. The same source can be be > found in one or more repositories. The UK Census images can be found > on-line both at Ancestry and at Find My Past. An important distinction > when using transcripts. If I said "Jane D

[LegacyUG] search the Internet form

2010-10-17 Thread JT
I have been trying to enter familysearchBeta' s URL into the advanced search form on the Internet from these search the Internet form in Legacy. For some reason I can't get the customize searches to do what I want it to. Obviously, I'm doing something wrong. Can anyone show me the string of data

Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?

2010-10-17 Thread Jean Suplick
Ron, using search and replace is workable. I'm not sure I'd call it a solution, simply because it is clunky and cumbersome to use with respect to the whole source model in Legacy. I think with a new, modern user interface, the Legacy developers could provide a much more easy-to-use way for us to a

RE: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?

2010-10-17 Thread leo macdonald
By highlighting I meant for you to just click on each of the 25 incorrect sources so that you can remove them (one at a time) and replace each one with the correct source that you have edited and saved to your clipboard. Leo > Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 07:37:51 -0

Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?

2010-10-17 Thread Jean Suplick
Leo, I'm so used to doing things one way, that I'm having a tough time visualizing what you mean. What would be the steps for "highlighting each of the 25 incorrect sources"? On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 6:32 PM, leo macdonald wrote: > > You could also copy one of those 25 to your clipboard, edit the

Re: [LegacyUG] how big?

2010-10-17 Thread Jonathan & Charity Cordell
Thanks everyone. That's what I thought. Now to undo the mess I got into! What would be the most effecient way to join the information from the different files. Thankully, because I caught this very early in the process, there is still only 2-4 generations per file (but alot of names). - Origi

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology

2010-10-17 Thread Mike Fry
On 2010/10/17 05:15, Connie Sheets wrote: > "Cite Your Sources: A Manual for Documenting and Family Histories > and Genealogical Records " by Richard Lackey was published in 1986, > so this is not Legacy terminology, nor particularly recent > terminology. American author. American publisher. > I

Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard? Clarification

2010-10-17 Thread Mike Fry
On 2010/10/17 12:10, Jenny M Benson wrote: > It's really very straightforward - honest! ?!?!?!?!?!?!? It can be very confusing at first, for sure :-) > "Source" is easy 0 it's the "source of" information or "where it came > from". A Master Source is a generalised description of a type of Source

Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?

2010-10-17 Thread Ron Ferguson
Bob, Firstly may I say that I do not understand what you are trying to do to, or at least why you are trying to do it. A fileID is something which is individual to a specific file. In the case of the Detail FileID it is used by most to reference the paper copies of the files to which the Source De

Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard? Clarification

2010-10-17 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 17/10/2010 03:10, E. Wolfe wrote: > How many places are called 'Source? 'Detail'? 'Text/Comment'? Citation? > Where are they all located and what does each one do? Which ones do I > use if I want to enter 'identical' source and data for multiple people? > Which ones do I use if I want to use the

Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?

2010-10-17 Thread Robert Runion
Ron - your suggestion intrigues me. I am in the throes of trying to change a lot of my 'detail' data' to make it 'master source' data. For example, I have say 50 person with a FileID of 1234-01 and would like to convert this to a Master Source numbered . Is there a way to use the 'searcdh

Re: [LegacyUG] how big?

2010-10-17 Thread Robert Runion
I suggest one file also. Years ago, I tried to split the file into major surnames, but discovered that the changes in spelling of a surname over the years really complicated having more than one file. Keep plenty of backup files. Bob On Oct 17, 2010, at 2:00 AM, BMcL Robinson wrote: > H

Re: [LegacyUG] how big?

2010-10-17 Thread BMcL Robinson
Hi Jonathon and Charity I suggest only one file. You can get very messy trying to split data on the points where the groups join (eg between yourself and spouse - how do you do the children etc?), and given that intermarriage can become more common once you go back say 8 generations there could